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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 08, 2007 01:51AM Reply Quote
Well, why not? this is a community, after all.

bahamut – December 04, 2017 09:35PM Reply Quote
I'm also leaning toward getting one of the gaming laptops for the boy. He'd be doing most of his work in Google Docs anyway.

Any thoughts? Would be nice if there was one that didn't weight 5 pounds. Thinking about $750.

bahamut – December 04, 2017 11:34PM Reply Quote
I'm getting convinced of the HP Omen 15t. JW or any of you who have gaming laptops, what do you think? It's for my kid, not for me and I think he'd be thrilled with it.


There is also a Dell. I have an aversion to Dell because I associate it with such cheap shit, but maybe this is different? I'm concerned about the lack of memory in that graphics card on the first one.

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp/spd/inspiron-15-7577-laptop (but you have to click on the one that says 15, not New 15).

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Mokers (Moderator) – December 05, 2017 01:22AM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
The inspiron has easily the best graphics card of all three, hp appears the weakest of the bunch.

bahamut – December 05, 2017 07:53AM Reply Quote
Just to be clear, you mean the GTX 1050ti. The GTX 1060 is out of our price range.

John Willoughby – December 05, 2017 12:48PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
My wife has a Dell Inspiron as her gaming computer; higher end than that one, but it is a good, solid computer. I think that, when I am next in the market for a gaming computer (2022?), I may look at machines like the Dells.

I use the built-in Windows Defender as my anti-virus, but I don't use the machine for a lot of web browsing.

With most PC's, you have to spend the first day uninstalling bloatware, and updating the OS and drivers. Painful, but necessary.

Also, for initial setup, ninite is your friend.

bahamut – December 05, 2017 01:35PM Reply Quote
Am I fool not to get the more expensive Dell for him? With the 1060 not the 1050? Will it ruin his game play?

Is there a relatively painless way to learn C? Is Swift Playgrounds ok? My son wants to make Gameboy Advance games.

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bahamut – December 05, 2017 01:35PM Reply Quote
Wow. Ninite seems amazing.

Mokers (Moderator) – December 05, 2017 01:58PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
Yep, the Inspiron has a GTX 1050 vs RX 460 in Acer:


The omen has the worst GPU, least amount of dedicated GPU RAM (2GB)


Those are for desktop GPUs of course, a gives a decent comparison.

The one thing the Acer has is an SSD for booting. that is pretty big difference. So much faster for the system booting and starting game programs. Makes a huge difference because all your swap is now SSD, etc, vs. a 5400 RPM drive. I would likely recommend The 881.99 Inspiron, then the Acer, then the 734.99 Inspiron then the Omen in that order.

Also, with that Dell you can get accidental damage protection, coverin you against drops and spills.

Edit: Sorry, got to this late. Yes the GTX 1060 is much better. Takes more cooling, etc, so you see the computer is larger and heavier.

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Mokers (Moderator) – December 05, 2017 02:13PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
Just saw this:


Incldudes 16GB of RAM and a 6GB GTX 1060. Should run most games really well.

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bahamut – December 05, 2017 02:56PM Reply Quote
It is roughly $200 over what I wanted to pay. How much of a difference will it really make? I mean by next year, anything he gets will be outdated. Or will that be a huge price point difference?

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John Willoughby – December 05, 2017 04:04PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Mokers' link looks like the one that I got my wife.

Mokers (Moderator) – December 05, 2017 05:50PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
The one I linked to has 6GB of dedicated video ram, so it is likely to stay viable as a gaming system longer.

bahamut – December 06, 2017 12:02AM Reply Quote
Well, thanks everyone! I bought the Dell from Costco. Hope that works out!

Mokers (Moderator) – December 06, 2017 12:24AM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
Good choice baha. Just don't be upset when it performs better than your macbook pro:


James DeBenedetti – December 06, 2017 02:01AM Reply Quote
Baha, I like Dave Lee’s reviews. Here’s one on the Dell Inspiron 7577.

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bahamut – December 06, 2017 11:34AM Reply Quote
Yeah, I'm sure it'll be faster than the flagship. Fuckin' Apple. When are we supposed to get OS X for all intel machines again?

Mokers (Moderator) – December 06, 2017 01:00PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
Well of course there is big tradeoff, but add up the specs you are buying.

Flagship MBP has DDR3, you are getting DDR4 for your son.

I was wrong about the graphics card:


Not quite as bad, but hook it up to an external display and I bet you couldn't tell which computer you spent 3K on.

ddt – December 07, 2017 12:09PM Reply Quote
Anyone have a free and trusted tool for converting mobi to epub? Seeing a lot of paid applications, expired ones, questionable ones.


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