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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 08, 2007 01:50AM Reply Quote
Hell, it was a popular icebreaker on the ancien boards ...

Get up close and personal with excruciating details of your quotidien

How's your dirty laundry?

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Dr Phred (Moderator) – January 18, 2008 12:38PM Reply Quote
owned by the mothership.
Well, as long as he's not on the menu.....

rino – January 18, 2008 12:46PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.

El Jeffe – January 18, 2008 04:55PM Reply Quote
What a journey.

What's your take on Ton's opinions here? I found it an interesting podcast.


What a journey.

Madaracs – January 18, 2008 05:07PM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
Rick Steves: The intelligent traveler's Messiah?

Cult Cult Cult Cult.

tliet – January 18, 2008 07:07PM Reply Quote
Heh, I'm now starting to listen to it, but Ton van Garderen is the name of the Dutch MD of Apple Benelux...

tliet – January 18, 2008 07:56PM Reply Quote
Heh, it sounds like some of those callers really think it's sodom and gomorrah in Amsterdam :-) This might very well be true when viewed from an US suburbian point of view but for those who've been here and also seen other places, it's really a walk in the park. The way we look at things has historically been from a financial point of view. As long as we make money from our trading partners, they can do whatever they like. Foreigners like British people that live here keep telling me that while the Dutch are really open minded sexually and showing this off by treating it as any other subject matter, in reality they're quite boring at it. While the British society for example, is a can of worms once you take a real good look at it.

Amsterdam is a small town compared to NYC, London or Paris. The city centre is the size of Greenwich Village, possibly even smaller. They still have a milkman going around the 'grachtengordel' which is the circular area with the big canals. The rest of the country doesn't have those kinds of things any more. My own city, Rotterdam, has a bigger city feeling with lots of high rise buildings and the usual unsafe, big city feeling that comes with those buildings.

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He's spot on analysing our culture; do whatever you like, just don't bother me or others with it. While this might seem as tolerance, other cultures might very well see this as a completely segregated society, which in some ways it indeed is. Most of the native Dutch these days want 'others' to integrate into 'our' society, conveniently forgetting that our country has changed so much in the last 50 years, that we should be the ones adapting to it.

tliet – January 19, 2008 04:09AM Reply Quote
DPBD, you've probably heard of it before, but Michael Palin of Monty Pyton fame has a vast array of TV programmes about travelling...


He's put the text of his books on his site, I haven't find any podcasts tho, that'd be great.

Dr Phred (Moderator) – January 19, 2008 10:18AM Reply Quote
owned by the mothership.
It's fucking Cold here right now! -14F (-25C)!

Why did I come back here again?

ghidorah – January 19, 2008 10:57AM Reply Quote
Raise taxes on cavemen. --jw
Love Michael Palin, though I've only seen a few of his Pole to Pole series.

Nobody Special – January 19, 2008 01:45PM Reply Quote
Dr Phred
It's fucking Cold here right now! -14F (-25C)!

Why did I come back here again?

Go north young man, go north for opportunity and warmer weather! ('tho a biting wind might have you think twice about that)


Dr Phred (Moderator) – January 19, 2008 01:59PM Reply Quote
owned by the mothership.
oh, a whole 10F warmer!
My car made very funny noises when I started it today. and not funny ha-ha.

rino – January 21, 2008 10:49AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
More of a Parlor question really but ...

> Most of the native Dutch these days want 'others' to integrate into 'our' society, conveniently forgetting that our country has changed so much in the last 50 years, that we should be the ones adapting to it.

I dunno if I can agree wholly here... it's a nuanced thing IMO. There's value to cultural heritage, even if that's your own anglo-saxon heritage. You seem to place a greater value on someone else's cultural heritage over your own ... sort of a self-hatred or willingness to subsume. I'm questioning here... I don't really want to see Northern European culture completely lost because it's felt that adaptation to Africa or the Middle East or any other region is necessary.


I've stayed on Prinsengracht street ... I love Amsterdam and even through 4 visits I barely know anything about the place.

tliet – January 21, 2008 12:11PM Reply Quote
Parlorised the response...

Cloudscout – January 24, 2008 02:39AM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
It's -13ºF here right now. I was about to go to bed and went to fill up my humidifier but when I turned the faucet on, nothing came out. Apparently my water lines froze up.

My water line comes into the house in a sort of closet-like room that is actually underneath the front steps. It used to be the well room back when this house had a well instead of municipal water service. I usually keep the door to that room closed because the basement loses a lot of heat through there but I forgot that I should really leave it open when we have extended periods of subzero temperatures.

I have the door to the closet open now and a couple of space heaters running to thaw it out. Hopefully it works quickly.

tliet – January 24, 2008 04:26AM Reply Quote
Too bad CS. Man that's cold! Make sure the pipes are still intact.

John Willoughby – January 24, 2008 08:20PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Had an odd occurrence. I was trying to burn a data DVD on my MacBook Pro, and ten different DVD's, from two different manufacturers, failed immediately after the burn began. "Medium write error." Toast and Disk Utility. I could still read DVD's and CD's. A lot of folks on Apple support boards had similar issues; one of them made it better by resetting the system management controller. After I did that and restarted, the computer wouldn't even detect that a writable disk was inserted, though it still could read DVD's and CD's. I did a full shut down, rather than restart. After that, the Mac wouldn't boot! It just lit up the screen, started the fans, and nothing else happened. I couldn't get it out of that state, so I rushed to my local Mac store (NOT an Apple store) for emergency repair. (I needs me my Mac.) Turned out that by removing the optical drive, the MBP could boot normally. Something about the dead drive not responding caused the machine to hang on boot. They've ordered the drive for me, but I can still use my crippled baby until they can swap in the new drive. Major crisis for me, a moment of irrelevant drivel for you. The lessons to be learned are that a dead optical drive can stop the boot process before much of anything happens, and that Willoughby cares WAY too much about his MBP.

ghidorah – January 25, 2008 05:39AM Reply Quote
Raise taxes on cavemen. --jw
Good thing to know JW--I still have a fan issue to get fixed, but since there is no Applestore anywhere nearby I'd have to mail it in to a service center.

Problem is I just can't bear to be without my machine for that long.

Its a sickness.

rino – January 26, 2008 11:55AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
It's very sunny today. Temp is approaching 30° F (-3°C) and the snow has receded enough it's nice enough for a jog. I'm thinking a quick 3 miler.

Then I'll take the beastly dog out for a romp. He didn't get his morning walk and is going crazy.
Sigo peeking out of snow cave...

It's better than shopping!

Mokers (Moderator) – January 26, 2008 12:16PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
It will be a struggle today. 60F and sunny. How will I ever survive?

Nobody Special – January 26, 2008 01:40PM Reply Quote
With a parka, a furry hat, and a sack full of provisions for the long and cold trail.


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