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Simon's Avatar Picture Simon – December 20, 2007 04:49AM Reply Quote
Yet Another Transplant Thread (credit to Brian Miller for the original) (and Robert Taylor for the 2nd edition)

So, when do you expect to see the next 21-slot G5 subnotebook with built-in antigravity? Or do you have other things to complain about regarding the Mac rum0rz press?

Bruce Robertson – October 14, 2008 12:25PM Reply Quote
Somewhere recently I saw an interesting phone-extender product.

You know, connect a keyboard and bigger display to cell phone. This one was a lot like a laptop with no processor.

The article downplayed the product, which popped the cell phone right into the body of the laptop where the trackpad would be.

I happen to like the idea a lot and maybe it will come some day, what with trends in miniaturization and the iPhone design ideas.

The iPhone or iPod touch drops in and acts as the trackpad.

But the trackpad IS the computer; it IS the operating system. The shell is just a display, plus keyboard, plus some additional storage.

Sort of an uber-Mini.

That said, I've just used one of the iPhone file sharing tools to make my iPhone a mini web server.

El Jeffe – October 14, 2008 12:33PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
in iChat, FIle, go to chat room, type spork and go.

El Jeffe – October 14, 2008 12:34PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
coincidence... in the chat room I just said to make the track pad an iPod touch.

Cloudscout – October 14, 2008 12:51PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
Hmm. *yawn* Wake me when it's over.

Bruce Robertson – October 14, 2008 12:59PM Reply Quote
Absolutely love the brick idea as a manufacturing process. I'd like to hear more detail.

Design tweak? New product? Change the CNC program, keep them slabs coming

This by the way is something Airbus did, on a much larger scale, to compete with Boeing.

Airplanes are tradtitonally made from lot and lots and lots of pieces formed and riveted/bolted together.
Airbus makes large structural parts by just taking a very big aluminum slab and carving it all up with CNC equipment. It takes very big machining centers to do this. But for computer-scale products? Sweet.

Jeff Cooper – October 14, 2008 01:13PM Reply Quote
Agreed, manufacturing process is very cool.

Go to the new MacBook specs page. Search for firewire. "Not found." Dammit.

rino – October 14, 2008 01:39PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
MBP retains FW:

Connections and expansion

MagSafe power port
Gigabit Ethernet port
One FireWire 800 port (up to 800 Mbps)
Two USB 2.0 ports (up to 480 Mbps)
Mini DisplayPort
Audio line in
Audio line out
ExpressCard/34 slot
Kensington lock slot

bahamut – October 14, 2008 02:21PM Reply Quote
new MacBook is nice. Air seems so underpowered now. Was getting one or the other. Guess it will be MB since Air is unusable for graphics. How hard would it be to stick 500gb data in new mb?

Dr Phred (Moderator) – October 14, 2008 02:41PM Reply Quote
owned by the mothership.
Don't know yet. it was very easy in the old design, tough as hell in an air.

Mokers (Moderator) – October 14, 2008 03:52PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
For $999, I can get a white macbook with 2.4 GHz Core 2 and 2GB of RAM new at the UCLA (and a lot of other UCs have the same deal). I love the look of the new one, but the graphics performance does not matter as much in what is essentially a second computer for me. To me they made a 13" and 15" MacBook Pro and canceled the MacBook.

Roger – October 14, 2008 04:19PM Reply Quote
I hope they can get the 13" aluminum MacBook down to the $999 price point within a few months and kill the holdover model. That looks like a stopgap measure to me, not a situation that should stick around. At least by back-to-school '09 the desirable machine needs to be priced lower and the low-end machine needs to be more desirable. But for the short term I think the sexy new design will result in a lot of upselling.

bahamut – October 14, 2008 04:24PM Reply Quote
Whoa it is insanely easy to change drive. 500gb ya!!!

John Willoughby – October 14, 2008 05:57PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
I thought that the response to the net book question in the Q&A was interesting. Not the usual heaping of derision on a market segment that they aren't competing in; just a comment on it being a "nascent market," and "We'll see how it goes."

John Willoughby – October 14, 2008 06:10PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
So, has the Apple Store been offline all day? I wanted to check configured prices, and haven't been able to get in the few times I tried. Not too busy to load, just "We'll be back!"

bahamut – October 14, 2008 07:58PM Reply Quote
pulled the trigger on the 2.4 ghz macbook. will be a nice complement to my 17". i weighed my bag tonight. 20 pounds. that is not good. not good at all. need some relief, at least some days. now to figure out how the heck the sync will work.

ARL (Moderator) – October 15, 2008 01:30AM Reply Quote
Hmmm... If they'd just chucked a FW400 port on the macbook I'd be very happy.

That said, my main beef with the old macbook was the integrated graphics so two thumbs up there. But at A$2100 and A$2550 that's a massive price whack (the old 2.4Ghz white macbook was $1800 - with bonus firewire port!)

I'm happy for them that they came up with their spiffy new fabrication process but not if the R&D had added another $200 to the price. Can they just chuck the new GPU in the old model and sell it to me for about $400 less?

They should rename it to Macbook Mid.

I'm also wondering about how the buttonless trackpad works with my impaired hand function.

Grumble, grumble, grumble... I might buy one though.

ddt – October 15, 2008 10:10AM Reply Quote
tony, what do you need the firewire for? serious question.


El Jeffe – October 15, 2008 11:06AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I agree about mfg at the sake of price. I wonder how many green-points they scored with the overemphasis on recycling the waste AL?

ddt – October 15, 2008 11:34AM Reply Quote
from seeing a lot of CNC in the bike industry, i think once the set-up costs are absorbed, this could be easily applied to all sorts of parts, perhaps making the process cheaper in the long run?


Jeff Cooper – October 15, 2008 04:30PM Reply Quote
MBP retains FW:

Sure, it's still there on the Pro. But the MBP isn't Apple's mainstream laptop. The MacBook is. And Apple has has effectively said that firewire isn't part of the mainstream. You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

I have a firewire camcorder that I don't expect to replace anytime soon. I use this with iMovie, not in pro-level applications. I have a firewire digital audio interface that works a hell of a lot better than my USB digital audio interface. I use this with Garageband, not in pro-level applications. I'm the kind of guy for whom iLife was made, in other words--yet Apple's telling me that if I want to continue using my existing tools with a new laptop, I have to pay a major, pro-level premium.

Beyond that: I have a number of external hard drives, and I much prefer firewire to USB--it's faster, and for portable drives it supplies power much better. I've used firewire target disk mode to diagnose problems with my laptops. Can USB do that?

I've seen a few snide comments today equating the elimination of firewire to the elimination of the Apple Desktop Bus or PS/2 ports. Nonsense. Those were replaced by superior technologies. Firewire IS the superior technology. Once again, good loses out to good enough. And that pisses me off.

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