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Robert Taylor – December 12, 2007 03:15PM Reply Quote
Well, at least B?K! got a head start.

El Jeffe – January 14, 2008 10:22AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I have no personal interest in it. Just noticed it was related to this topic. I post on like 80 boards, hence why most of mine are brief here, and only have time mostly for quick in and out on these things. Not long, engaged discussion on my part. If you find the link of interest, read it; any of you. If not, no biggie. It seems to be a topic here and elsewhere that is coming up at this point in time for whatever reason.

What a journey.

tliet – January 16, 2008 02:22AM Reply Quote
Harold Bloom: 'What We Are Seeing Is the Fall of America'


Harold Bloom, Yale literature professor and cultural critic, is one of America's most prominent and provocative intellectuals. Unabashedly, he has always spoken up for what he calls "the fight for truth and beauty" making a lot of foes in the process, but also some friends. As one of the first critical voices against the Bush administration and the war in Iraq, Bloom landed in the hot seat with the satire "MacBush" in 2004. Lately, he sparked worldwide outrage by calling Harry Potter "garbage." Speaking at his home in New Haven where he is recovering from a recent health scare, a pale and weak Bloom seems to have symbolically embodied what he calls the "poor state of the nation."

"I am 77 years old and I have never seen this country in such a bad state. It is madness. What we are seeing is the fall of the Roman Empire, only now it is the fall of America, the glory of our Empire. This war is what Parthia was to Rome.

El Jeffe – January 16, 2008 05:32AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I agree. It's been downhill since the late 50s. But, out on the street, it's just life. We had nowhere to go but down, once on top. It's a pendulum. I'm waiting for the break-up.

What a journey.

rino – January 16, 2008 09:58AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
... and a large portion of the world lives in dirt floor huts.

As Ben Folds said in "All U Can Eat"
See that asshole with the peace sign on his license plate?
Giving me the finger and running me out of his lane
God made us number one because he loves us the best
Well he should go bless someone else for a while
Give us a rest

ghidorah – January 16, 2008 11:29AM Reply Quote
Raise taxes on cavemen. --jw
>But, out on the street, it's just life.

Which is exactly the way the romans saw it--even after Rome had been sacked several times it wasn't until the last of the aqueducts were destroyed that they deserted the city in any large number.

tliet – January 21, 2008 01:10AM Reply Quote
Hmm, deleting a message is not possible? Linked to a video that was over a year old, thinking it was new.

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John Willoughby – January 21, 2008 01:33AM Reply Quote
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>even after Rome had been sacked several times it wasn't until the last of the aqueducts were destroyed that they deserted the city in any large number.

Rome wasn't burnt in a day.

tliet – January 22, 2008 10:04AM Reply Quote

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tliet – January 24, 2008 07:47AM Reply Quote
Another war on... going badly wrong.


California now has the biggest prison system in the Western industrialized world, a system 40 percent bigger than the Federal Bureau of Prisons. The state holds more inmates in its jails and prisons than do France, Great Britain, Germany, Japan, Singapore, and the Netherlands combined

Buried in the article, there's actually a testament of the foresight that Eisenhower apparently had about what was going to happen to the US:


On January 17, 1961, President Dwight D. Eisenhower used his farewell address to issue a warning, as the United States continued its cold war with the Soviet Union. "In the councils of government," Eisenhower said, "we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex." Eisenhower had grown concerned about this new threat to democracy during the 1960 campaign, when fears of a "missile gap" with the Soviet Union were whipped up by politicians, the press, and defense contractors hoping for increased military spending. Eisenhower knew that no missile gap existed and that fear of one might lead to a costly, unnecessary response. "The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist," Eisenhower warned. "We should take nothing for granted."

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El Jeffe – January 24, 2008 07:56AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Buried behind: Soros.

What a journey.

tliet – January 24, 2008 08:29AM Reply Quote
Why is it that someone who questions and is using his wealth to try to tackle some of the big inequalities in this world being met with such hostility as if it were the anti-christ?

Oh right, Fox News...

El Jeffe – January 24, 2008 09:17AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Why is he looked at as altruistic? I just listened to him on two BBC podcasts and he was not forthright with his answers. I just developed my own opinion. Nothing extraordinary in that. His past performance has brought into question his possible ulterior motives now. That's simple. Oh, and I have no idea what the various podcasts I'm listening to subscribe to in terms of political philosophies. I just load them up and listen. But, I assume they meet with more Euro-favor than does the beleaguered Fox. And don't' forget, I don't really watch TV, and don't even have access to FoxNews TV. So, it has zero influence on me, unless their banner ads are in this forum.

What a journey.

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tliet – January 24, 2008 10:04AM Reply Quote
Fair enough, do you have the links to those podcasts? I'd like to listen to them. Here is an interview of Google CEO Eric Schmidt with George Soros that gives a little peek in his ideas and beliefs. While people with this kind of power, influence and money deserve to be treated with suspect, I've found George Soros to be pretty upfront about his motives.

tliet – January 29, 2008 10:01AM Reply Quote


Quite an interesting documentary and as is noted on the page itself, nowadays probably more significant than when it was made in 1987.

(link goes to PBS documentary The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis, by Bill Moyers)

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El Jeffe – February 11, 2008 06:58AM Reply Quote
What a journey.

Madaracs – February 11, 2008 10:54AM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
Locks up my pdf reader.

El Jeffe – February 11, 2008 01:26PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
cuz macs suxors dude. ;)

What a journey.

El Jeffe – February 17, 2008 11:20PM Reply Quote
What a journey.

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