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Cloudscout's Avatar Picture Cloudscout – January 14, 2008 03:08PM Reply Quote
iBox
Box mini
Box Pro
BoxBook
BoxBook Pro

The more the boxes change, the more they stay the same... or don't.

(talk about the hardware here)

John Willoughby – November 02, 2016 04:25PM Reply Quote
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johnny k – November 02, 2016 05:08PM Reply Quote
So Phil saying that the headphone jack was left on for professionals didn't extend to...professionals. So not a lot of people used it. Is that Apple's brand? To drop things because they're not popular?

Cloudscout – November 02, 2016 05:34PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
They're targeting the lowest common denominator for their decisions, then?

johnny k – November 02, 2016 06:24PM Reply Quote
I like Chuq's take, that 4 multipurpose ports + dongles allow them to cater to a wider range of needs. Essentially pushing the options to things you can plug in, just like PCI -> Thunderbolt. As computers dwindle, I suppose even Apple with its millions sold will want to consolidate to fewer models. Doesn't bother me; only time I need dongles are at my desk. Fine, all in the name of make a portable more portable. Removing optical audio most likely doesn't save space, so it smells more like cost-cutting. Again there, there are probably better options now. If I get back into recording, I'll get a Thunderbolt/USB-C multichannel audio interface anyway. Just a little irritated because I bothered to run an SPDIF cable in the wall.

I like the new machines. A bit of my frustration comes from the declining value — they cost more and with few performance improvements (apparently). But most of the frustration is from what this presages. The overall feeling of neglect, the slowing pace of progress, and Apple's inability to get out of its own way to let users fix the problems themselves, or even communicate anything other than RDF... which only works when you have a supreme bullshit artist. I'm interested to see what the spring brings. I think a Thunderbolt 3 iMac will be my next machine, and last me 6-8 years.

James DeBenedetti – November 02, 2016 07:07PM Reply Quote
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johnny k
But most of the frustration is from what this presages.

Pretty much this. I actually like the new MBPs, but they seem too weak for a primary system, and too expensive for a secondary one.

ARL (Moderator) – November 02, 2016 07:07PM Reply Quote
Gotta sell those (not yet shipping) earpods!

The sucky thing about that for audiophiles is that's one less USB C port for other things.

Intentionally crippling existing functionality is a dick move (or maybe they had to because it's soooo thin) and I don't think even Apple is sure what their grand plan is.

I think it's throw spaghetti at a wall and see what sticks.



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John Willoughby – November 02, 2016 07:44PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
I think that it's "If Tim Cook would use it in a day's work, put it in. Otherwise, it's out."

ARL (Moderator) – November 02, 2016 09:33PM Reply Quote
His myopia is worse than Steve's


El Jeffe – November 05, 2016 05:58AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
GOOD

John Willoughby – November 06, 2016 04:50PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
It's all Band-Aids on the gaping wound where professional machines should be.

John Willoughby – November 14, 2016 01:19PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Ars Technica review of the new MBP's.

If you've got a MacBook Pro that you bought in 2012 or earlier, and if you're convinced of the potential utility and novelty of the Touch Bar, these 2016 MacBook Pros were just about worth the wait.

That's... underwhelming praise.

John Willoughby – November 14, 2016 04:09PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
A more flattering review from Gizmodo. Points out that the graphics card was specifically picked to maximize "work" tasks rather than gaming. And it shows in the benchmarks, although I wouldn't use a port of a PC game to be my baseline.

ARL (Moderator) – November 14, 2016 08:03PM Reply Quote
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Points out that the graphics card was specifically picked to maximize "work" tasks rather than gaming.

Because that's when framerates really count, when you're in the middle of a spreadsheet.

Being slightly less snarky, I'd be interested to see if the new MBPs handle streaming video better than my current one.



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John Willoughby – November 15, 2016 01:23PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
SSD in the TouchBar MBP's can't be removed or upgraded. Seems like a dick move. Not surprising that Apple has backed off on easy user upgrades.

ARL (Moderator) – November 15, 2016 08:12PM Reply Quote
And the RAM is soldered on too.

Extreme planned obsolescence. When a component dies the whole machine does too.

Are they deliberately trying to kill the Mac?



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Cloudscout – November 16, 2016 10:37AM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
They're trying to shorten the upgrade/replacement cycle.

ARL (Moderator) – November 16, 2016 10:04PM Reply Quote
It'll be shortened alright. To zero.

johnny k – November 18, 2016 01:16PM Reply Quote
Had expiring Dell credit and a need to replace a flickering old monitor. Was wrestling with spending it on 4K resolution or color accuracy. Ended up going with the latter, partially because I'm not sure about the ability or quality of a monitor's native scaling down to what my MBP can drive, and partially because it feels like macOS would make a 4K display a really sharp 1920x1080 screen, which would effectively lose me screen real estate over a normal 2560x1440 27" screen. How do y'all balance these?

El Jeffe – November 20, 2016 02:05PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Bought a Roku Premiere +
Just wanted some 4k source.

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