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Cloudscout's Avatar Picture Cloudscout – January 14, 2008 03:08PM Reply Quote
Box mini
Box Pro
BoxBook Pro

The more the boxes change, the more they stay the same... or don't.

(talk about the hardware here)

ghidorah – January 25, 2008 09:03PM Reply Quote
Raise taxes on cavemen. --jw
sweet FLL--that must have set you back a few dimes

Dr Phred (Moderator) – January 26, 2008 09:30AM Reply Quote
owned by the mothership.
not my dimes! It's for a back up server I'm setting up.

rino – January 26, 2008 11:42AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
Well, HP has taken a page from the playbook:


Anyone here using a Drobo?

El Jeffe – January 26, 2008 01:08PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
WOW, I don't have 5 days to wait for their painfully slow site to load.

What a journey.

Jeff Cooper – January 28, 2008 09:39AM Reply Quote
The kids have a new low-end iMac. It's nice--makes my last generation white iMac look very plain--but the screen quality pretty clearly isn't as good as the previous model.

Still, lucky kids. My wife is very strange. Last summer she agreed only grudgingly to let me use money from a university teaching prize (meaning that I didn't have to dip into savings) for my new iMac, then two weeks ago she decided out of nowhere that the kids needed a new computer. Go figure.

stan adams – January 28, 2008 10:32AM Reply Quote

What's strange 'bout that -- you obviously did the work to earn the teaching prize while equipped ONLY with the old machine, while concern for the kids "falling behind" is much more pressing -- their little brains grow faster than anybody can 'rev' machines ;^)

On a topic only slightly related (because I have been instructed to investigate "adding RAM" to various boxen that primarily serve my kids) does anybody understand how/why RAM prices are what they are? As I see it the prices for PC6400 -- just about fallen through the floor. Yet prices for PC5300 ( like the mini & iMac uses) are far higher -- why wouldn't folks buy the faster stuff and subsitute it? Ought to work fine right? "Underclocking" is no issue, right?

What sort of screwy "priced at original inventory" mindset goes into RAM pricing at OEM? When factories switch over from older DDR ram to DDR2 or DDR3 varieties it would seem the high speeds should cost more, but that is not reflected in 90% of the "storefront" offerings.

Same cannot be said for ebay -- is the odds of dead ram really that high or are people just too sheep like?

Jeff Cooper – January 28, 2008 04:13PM Reply Quote

That would make a lot more sense if my kids were a bit older than 3 and 6! How much horsepower do you need for Sesamestreet.com (okay, Sesameworkshop.org)?

Although it must be said that Noah's Ratatouille game didn't run on his old iBook. (Maybe I should head over to "What Sells Computers Most?").

stan adams – January 28, 2008 04:28PM Reply Quote
Oh, the boxen my kids at home are using are hand me downs, t256 M of RAM beasts, P4s -- PC2700 vintage. Not even DDR2. Run FF just fine, plugins are another story.
I was pricingvarious RAM just for comparison and realized that the stuff in such machines is WAY pricier than the current stuff in even the "current production" Apple machines.

Still makes me wonder how the "supply chain" works with Apple on this. Seems like no or nearly no other "first tier" PC maker is selling stuff as "slow" as Apple. Very odd.

Simon – January 28, 2008 07:20PM Reply Quote
I think the mini and the imac both use laptop ram which is always more expensive because it's smaller.

In regards to how it is priced, I believe it has to do with whatever is being produced in the highest quantities is cheapest, so new stuff and old stuff is more expensive so there is less demand for it.

Nobody Special – January 28, 2008 07:39PM Reply Quote
Generally most people purchase their RAM upgrdes at time of purchase. That and the volume demand from manufacturers provide the volume to cause lower RAM prices. The older stuff moves slower and the cost of carrying the inventory makes the price higher. That is until the stuff is absolutely useless and then it is sold as keychain fobs abd such.

It's wierd, but that seems to be the way it works.

El Jeffe – January 28, 2008 07:41PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Uh. I maxed out my mini's ram with apple oem for $40. Two, 1GB sticks. That's cheap in my book.

What a journey.

Madaracs – January 29, 2008 10:29AM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
Great deal. Half of what I paid.

El Jeffe – January 29, 2008 10:30AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I just bought them from OWC.

What a journey.

Dr Phred (Moderator) – January 29, 2008 12:46PM Reply Quote
owned by the mothership.
Well, that's OWC pricing, not Apple's. If it's an Apple stick, it's pulled RAM.

El Jeffe – January 29, 2008 01:03PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Yes. That's how it was advertised. But, I'm not sure if OWC repackages it, but it came in what appeared to ME as completely NEW and SEALED. And works great.

I've never done a mini, but twas easy to pop in me sticks.

What a journey.

Madaracs – January 29, 2008 01:48PM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
El Jeffe

I've never done a mini, but twas easy to pop in me sticks.

That's what she said.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/29/2008 01:48PM by Madaracs.

bahamut – February 04, 2008 12:05PM Reply Quote

Mighty Mouse – February 04, 2008 12:35PM Reply Quote
To a MacBook Pro or even a MacBook user? Nope.

Having played with one that had the SSD in it, though, I can tell you they are impressive. This is not a machine for everyone. It's not a primary machine. It's a secondary machine for someone that is constantly on the move and isn't doing anything intensive. Definitely aimed at a niche market.

Out of the major stuff that is missing (optical drive, ethernet, firewire) I think the biggest one for the intended market is the optical drive. The wireless is a very good substitute for ethernet (again for this unit's mission) and USB 2.0 is fast enough for an external drive (and face it: you're not going to be doing video editing on this thing). But the optical drive could be a deal breaker for some because those on the move might like to watch a movie now and then, and the only way to do it on MBA is to either rent it or have a ripped DVD stored on the drive. And with only 80 GB (64 if you have the SSD), there's not just a whole lot of space. All that said, though, in terms of reducing dimensions including weight, the optical drive is obviously the first thing to toss.

It's not a perfect computer. Not sure that even exists. I think the technology is a ways off before the MBA gets anywhere close to being perfect. As usual, Apple is a bit ahead of the game and the jury is definitely still out on this decision. However, don't think their won't be improvements to this line or other products that come into being based (more or less) on this product. I don't know anything (really), but it's not too hard to make educated guesses about where this could be going.

Dr. Strangelove – February 04, 2008 01:01PM Reply Quote
Jason Calacanis was on TWiT over the weekend, absolutely raving about his MBA. I have to say, if I had to replace my MBP for some reason, I'd probably do it with a MBA.

stan adams – February 04, 2008 01:21PM Reply Quote
While lighter == cooler, I just don't live in world where I can be that cool...

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