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Cloudscout's Avatar Picture Cloudscout – January 14, 2008 03:08PM Reply Quote
Box mini
Box Pro
BoxBook Pro

The more the boxes change, the more they stay the same... or don't.

(talk about the hardware here)

Cloudscout – January 14, 2008 03:14PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
We missed the two year birthday of Intel Mac hardware last Thursday. The first Intel iMac was released January 10, 2006. Since then, they've gone from 1.83GHz Core Duo chips to 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo chips (last update was over 5 months ago). Obviously, those will see a bump tomorrow at the very least. This is a better speed-bump track than the PPC iMacs ever had.

El Jeffe – January 14, 2008 03:26PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
So, have they pretty much determined that we will never again approach crossing the 4 Ghz or so barrier into radio-frequency-territory ?
I recall back THEN, that too many problems existed with getting much faster than that. But I can't recall the physics of WHY?

What a journey.

stan adams – January 14, 2008 03:33PM Reply Quote
Small form factor PCs are not a bad idea, but portables make more sense overall -- even these guys seem to acknowledge that -- http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/07/linux-based-zonbox-offers-up-subscription-based-computing/


stan adams – January 15, 2008 12:25PM Reply Quote
Time Capsule -- hw for "live" over the airport extreme backups -- 500 GB version - $299, 1 TB $499 Seems like a good product. Very me too...

stan adams – January 15, 2008 01:59PM Reply Quote
macbook air -- .76" whippty friggin' do -- durability? fuhgedaboutit... Whiners are bitchin' about bent cases now, what till they read the fine print on the EXCLUSIONS that come with having a 4:1 taper at the edges... Not something I could live with. BTW, the severe taper with the rounded/radiused looks overly feminine to my eye. Flip down connectors, not Et0 jack, mini-DVI -- suckage!!! WIreless Remote Disk aka netmount over 802.11n -- kinda nice, but me thinks BonJour or something like it would be even better...

Cloudscout – January 15, 2008 02:02PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
I suspect Bonjour may be involved in Remote Disk.

I'm underwhelmed by it from what I've seen.

Cloudscout – January 15, 2008 02:03PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!

I will be buying an Apple TV, though.

SoupIsGood Food – January 15, 2008 02:23PM Reply Quote
The MacBook Air is the modern-day G4 Cube - daring and beautiful and likely a slow seller, as it will be too much moolah for the non-power user, and too fragile and under-featured for the power users. I guess they're hoping it will sell as a second system to well-off iMac owners. Good luck with that.

SoupStillWantsOne Sorta

Jeff Cooper – January 15, 2008 02:25PM Reply Quote
As the former owner of a 20th Anniversary Mac and a current owner of a Cube, I'm all for daring and beautiful. But it's probably no coincidence that I bought both computers on the cheap after they were discontinued.

stan adams – January 15, 2008 02:30PM Reply Quote
Jeff Cooper
As the former owner of a 20th Anniversary Mac and a current owner of a Cube, I'm all for daring and beautiful. But it's probably no coincidence that I bought both computers on the cheap after they were discontinued.

And of course desktops like the Cube & spartacus generally get pampered by owners like show cars, not too sure that will hold true for MBAs (and no, I don't think holders of Masters of Business Adminstration will be in the target for the new pricey laptop, bad acronymn choice...)

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rino – January 15, 2008 02:51PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.

I guess it's more than a Lenova, about the same as an HP, more than Toshiba, and lighter/more svelte than any of them. I see it as an evolution of a good form factor.

The multitouch trackpad is a very cool thing. I can't wait until Apple reveals more of this functionality. The device is coming. The market can't bear it or grok such a device at this time though.


I dunno, we'll see how many they sell. I'm of the opinion that a mid-range Mac, the headless, upgradeable entry tower would sell more.

SoupIsGood Food – January 15, 2008 03:06PM Reply Quote
Pricey compared to the plain-jane iBookMac Book. Take a good look at the number of piano-black Mac Books out there. That's your buyer segment in its entirety.

~ Soop

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stan adams – January 15, 2008 03:11PM Reply Quote
I predict a very soon "silent upgrade" to MBPs to multi-touch and EOL to piano black MBs -- makes sense in many many many way...

Cloudscout – January 15, 2008 03:25PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
Yeah, I wonder if the current touchpad hardware is capable of supporting multi-touch with a software update.

Anybody look to see what version of OSX is running on those demo MBAs?

johnny k – January 15, 2008 03:30PM Reply Quote
It is capable. If I can do two fingers to scroll in windows on my MacBook, then it can do all of that.

Mighty Mouse – January 15, 2008 04:15PM Reply Quote
Gotta disagree on the Air's target audience, Soup.

I think the MacBook is aimed at the home user who wants portability, the education user (k-12 and college), and the price-conscious.

The Air is aimed at the upwardly mobile user who needs to do email, documents, spreadsheets and wants the smallest possible form factor.

I would hazard a guess that people buying the MacBooks are not willing to give up the optical drive and the ports, but a UMT would if it meant saving weight and battery power.

Don't read too much into the preaching about why you don't need an optical disk; that's for the fringe people in the home/edu market that might be considering one but aren't sure about giving up the optical drive.

The price point is ok. Not great, not horrible. My question is on the durability of the thing. Plastics would have been better, but that would have been really tough to pull off.

stan adams – January 15, 2008 04:31PM Reply Quote
Soup's point, and mine for those scoring at home, is that the PIANO BLACK MB costs MORE than the white one for the privilege of looking cool -- if you slap the 250 G HD in white in costs $1,524.00 while the black is $1,649.00. Strange but true.

The MBA is all about looking cool, and that it does VERY WELL (yeahm I'd want to USE one and carry it around on some one's else "whoops" dime, but to OWN one, with MY money, no thanks... The 15 (and 17) MBP are WAY MORE FUNCTIONAL -- ports, video, the WORKS baby. I need da' power when its my money.

Mighty Mouse – January 15, 2008 04:36PM Reply Quote
No argument about the MacBooks. My son wanted a black one, and I told him to forget it, even with my discount! But, hey, if people will drop the cash, why not?

The MBA (wonder if that acronym is intentional) is not aimed at the power user in any way. Not enough ports, not enough HD space, not enough graphics power.

Cloudscout – January 15, 2008 04:40PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
Yeah, it just seems too crippled to me.

I wonder if it will boot from any USB drive or if you have to get Apple's drive. It would put a damper on Boot Camp.

That little cluster of ports would make for a simple port-replicator option, though... still, no FireWire is a downer. This is the first Mac since the original iBook to lack FireWire, isn't it?

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