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Granberry's Parlor

tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 08, 2007 02:46AM Reply Quote
Politics. Don Granberry on the old Spork Boards was quite fond of talking about them, and here we continue on in that fine tradition.

John Willoughby – December 26, 2007 01:51PM Reply Quote
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But did the hamburger have a heartbeat?

El Jeffe – December 26, 2007 01:52PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
did as in did EVER? or did at time of eating? Mr Silly pants.

What a journey.

Madaracs – December 26, 2007 03:20PM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
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Ron Burns
Chips or sawdust with the stakes?

Vampires.

Madaracs – December 26, 2007 03:21PM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
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John Willoughby
But did the hamburger have a heartbeat?

Vampire burgers, yum.

tliet – December 26, 2007 04:05PM Reply Quote
Maybe the ones that live in western countries, but the people that I worked with in Mysore were all vegetarians. The meals I've eaten at the company we visited were also vegetarian. It's just the way they live there, haven't seen any McDonald's overthere although I'm sure they've got some.

The funny thing is tho, once you're at a culture where meat or fish is just not part of the diet, you don't miss it at all. Since they don't eat the usual meat replacements that one eats in our culture, their food is pretty varied on it's own and absolutely doesn't need any meat to taste complete.

El Jeffe – December 26, 2007 05:00PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
the ones I deal with are 'just visiting' on contract from India. Sure...MOST still are vegan, but I'm just saying it does not surprise me when I see one falling off the wegon.

What a journey.

rino – December 26, 2007 05:40PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
Vegetarianism isn't the mainstay of the overall Indian diet ... as far as I know. But that's not much. Isn't it mostly about the amount of meat (lamb in their case if they are Hindu).

I agree though there's a huge difference in their vegetarianism versus our fake meat take on things.



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John Willoughby – December 26, 2007 08:02PM Reply Quote
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>once you're at a culture where meat or fish is just not part of the diet, you don't miss it at all.

Of course not. Once I've starved to death I won't miss it. Although I will BE meat...



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tliet – December 27, 2007 03:50AM Reply Quote
Rino, it is a complex mix of the caste system, religion and geographic location that will result in a person being vegetarian or not in India. However, I've found that the region I was at was mostly vegetarian, I do remember them saying that vegetarianism is less predominant in the north tho.

rino – December 27, 2007 09:19AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
Hmmm, that's interesting. Definitely knew religion and region played into vegetarianism in India but not caste.
Either way, I love Indian food be it meatless or laden with flightless barn fowl.

We have a Brit-Indi take-out. The guy is actually Scottish and the other owner definitely is of Indian descent. But since they opened it's the only Indian style we eat on a regular basis. Although we are up here in Maine there are several Indian restaurants to choose from but the take-out place is tops.

tliet – December 27, 2007 10:19AM Reply Quote
While I don't know specifics, the caste system allows the highest caste to eat meat, since they descend from warriors. At least, that's what I've been told.

stan adams – December 27, 2007 10:58AM Reply Quote
I work with several folks from India(imagine that!). I often eat lunch with them and they tried to explain the vegetarian stuff. It is pretty complicated, having religious , economic and social components, but it can be summed as being a "cultural thing" they learned from their family and sorta hope their kids stick to, but it would not kill 'em if they didn't. They guesstimate that maybe 30% or so of the folks back home adhere to the same diet. Regionally chicken is a big part of some Indian diets, fish others, lamb others still. In the major cities beef and pork can be found, but are not very popular choices, mostly for foreigners.
Both the well educated guys that I most often eat lunch with are "nothing with a heartbeat" vegetarian so they eat a lot of the rice/veggies/bean dishes as well as quite a bit of cheese and yogurt-y type dairy. They share a lot of their home cooked meals with me. Mostly tasty stuff. One guy likes the really spicy stuff, the other not so much, and they claim that there is some cultural dimension to that too, though their families back home are from similar, neighboring regions, and they admit that some of their uncles on both sides have dissimilar tastes for spicy stuff -- seems like normal "taste variation" to me,
They've got no problem eating at a restaurant that has a lot of non-vegetarian dishes, which is quite a bit different than the attitude one gets from the "meat is murder" type vegans I've met. They've even got no problem getting a half-sausage/ half veggie pizza, which even moderate Jews and American Muslims will generally NOT do -- that greasy goodness has pork fat in it my brother.

These guys further tell me that in India the Muslim minority is further splintered, with the hard core Halal folks often living together much as Hasidim do in parts of NY. Leads to nasty "confrontations" not unlike Park Slope...

Pretty interesting, actually.



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John Willoughby – December 27, 2007 12:29PM Reply Quote
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>the caste system allows the highest caste to eat meat, since they descend from warriors

The Brahmins are the highest caste, I think. The warriors, Kshatriyas, are one rung down the ladder. Still, they need their protein.

ghidorah – December 27, 2007 02:10PM Reply Quote
Raise taxes on cavemen. --jw
I thought it was the untouchables (technically outside of the caste system) that ate meat

stan adams – December 27, 2007 02:33PM Reply Quote
Sounds like the old Japanese thing, Eta, butchers and tanners... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burakumin#Historical_Origins

John Willoughby – December 27, 2007 04:40PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
And NINJAS!

Steve Cordova – December 28, 2007 12:09PM Reply Quote
History passes the first time as tragedy, the second time as farts. - Roy Edroso
[Homer] MMmmmmmmm. Bacon [/Homer]

El Jeffe – December 28, 2007 12:18PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
My heart skipped a beat just viewing the pics. YUM

What a journey.

tliet – January 15, 2008 12:24AM Reply Quote
Continuing the discussion about money lending and corporatism from the 'local' thread...


That series was exactly what I had in mind Tom, this is a much better quality than what I used to have, thanks. For those who haven't seen it, 'The Century of the Self' truly is a revelation to watch, our society unravels in front of your eyes.

John Willoughby – January 15, 2008 12:37AM Reply Quote
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The important thing is that I get lots of shiny stuff.

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