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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 08, 2007 02:43AM Reply Quote
Every election is the most important one.

ddt – February 15, 2019 11:26AM Reply Quote
Question to people living in red states, or people with Trump-fan friends/family: how do they see things like Trump stating blatant lies (as he did in the presser about declaring a national emergency; examples include about how drugs are being smuggled into America not through ports of entry, which facts seem to indicate is exactly how most are)?


John Willoughby – February 15, 2019 12:05PM Reply Quote
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"Trump's an ass. My taxes are lower."

John Willoughby – February 15, 2019 12:31PM Reply Quote
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Trump on the nature of the "emergency:" https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1096443896245219330

“I didn’t need to do this... I just want to do it faster.”

tliet – February 15, 2019 03:56PM Reply Quote
Which will indeed make it go away in the first trail on this.

tliet – February 16, 2019 03:41AM Reply Quote
So, on Foxnews.com there's this story on the front page since a few hours: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-faces-questions-after-her-boyfriend-gets-congressional-email-account I agree that I don't think it's normal that non employees should get email accounts in organisations they don't work for, just because their spouses work there. But come on; King Trump has the rest of his royal family taking up all kinds of positions around him, while giving shout-outs to Limbaugh, Hannity and the rest the gang for the 'fine reporting' that they do.

And we continue to live our lives as if this is normal. Odd...

ARL (Moderator) – February 16, 2019 07:32PM Reply Quote
So, it'll now be "but his emails"

ddt – February 18, 2019 10:30PM Reply Quote
Another economically anxious voter. I mean, them deserves lynching -- they want to raise taxes.


tliet – February 18, 2019 11:26PM Reply Quote
I can imagine that the gentleman in question has upgraded to the very latest version of Quark XPress on MacOS 9.2.2, such a bleeding edge technology user.

In all seriousness, this is something that from a European p.o.v. is hard to understand about the US society; the absolute right to free speech.

ARL (Moderator) – March 15, 2019 01:43AM Reply Quote
The redneck right wing scumbag who murdered 40 innocent people today in Christchurch listed, in his deranged 76 page manifesto, as one of his “inspirations” ... (drum roll) ... Donald Trump.

When you are a world leader, how you act, what you say and do, the words you use, and the things you imply, all matter.

Although I’m sure there were “good people on both sides.”

ddt – March 15, 2019 08:36AM Reply Quote
Stop me if this is incorrect, but it seems there is a much higher correlation between terrorist attacks (esp in the US) and being Christian than being Muslim.


ddt – March 15, 2019 09:01AM Reply Quote
Okay, have moved from anger to sadness on this. So much.


John Willoughby – March 15, 2019 01:03PM Reply Quote
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Yes. Muslim fanatics are to blame. Who quietly worship at their mosque, and have the nerve to be struck by bullets fired by racist, xenophobic killers.

johnny k – March 15, 2019 03:17PM Reply Quote
Who was a foreign invader!

Anyway. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-politics-beto-orourke/
It's like Idiocracy but instead of a pro wrestler/porn star president, he's a punk rocker/hacker. Very 80s.

johnny k – March 17, 2019 12:36PM Reply Quote
Really good interview. She's a great combination of big ideas and pragmatism, with the economic chops to explain how to enact her big ideas through tweaks to the capitalist machinery. She explains her concepts in relatable terms but can easily dive into details with historical framing. I do want to know more about her foreign policies.

This election will be (again) about breaking the system, and (again) authenticity from a candidate. Trump was authentic in his style, but not substance. Sanders and Warren have made their issues their life's work, and have the ability to reach across the spectrum by believably reframing red-blue as billionaire-worker. They get some sniping from the left by being less than perfect on identity politics, but substance is how they break Trump (and really, both parties right now). My bet is on these two as the Democratic ticket.

John Willoughby – March 17, 2019 10:45PM Reply Quote
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I can't see Sanders working or playing well with anybody, and Warren sure isn't going to want to step back into a VP slot. Of course, Warren may be much more flexible if the primaries don't go her way. I'd vote for either of them if they were the party's candidate, of course.

ddt – March 17, 2019 10:47PM Reply Quote
Why do you say Warren wouldn't go for VP? My worry about her as Prez is more that the executive role would get in the way of the work a) she's passionate about and 2) the work I really want her doing.


ARL (Moderator) – March 18, 2019 03:02AM Reply Quote
Thread drift here but this is the New Zealand I remember:


If I liked cold weather I’d live there.

ddt – March 19, 2019 11:01PM Reply Quote
Anyone else watch the CNN town hall with Dr. Warren in Mississippi? The parts I've seen have been amazing at how she's asked a question, she connects with and responds to the questioner, she obviously knows and has had original thinking about the topic -- and the audience nods and some are near tears with how happy they are to get answers. She obviously gives a shit -- this is the same focus and intensity she's always displayed.

ETA: look at their faces. I just realized why their expressions hit me so hard. They're hopeful.


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