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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 08, 2007 02:43AM Reply Quote
Every election is the most important one.

ddt – November 03, 2017 10:24AM Reply Quote
Seriously, what would it take for that last 30something percent to stop supporting Trump? Is it really "I hate the Democrat [sic, because that's a dogwhistle] party more and haha libtards"? (Seriously, that is not a distant summation of what I see on Redstate and Townhall comments.)


John Willoughby – November 03, 2017 10:55AM Reply Quote
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They will NEVER stop supporting Trump. People need to understand that. Stop thinking that more revelations, more proof, more confessions are needed. They. Will. Not. Matter. These people have made a faith-based (by which I do not mean Christian) commitment to Trump. He is the Messiah, the One, the Savior. Facts cannot influence Faith.

ddt – November 03, 2017 11:08AM Reply Quote
Yeah, probably true. Though it still seems based in identity -- "don't be a dem or libtard or RINO (seriously, McConnell and Ryan are that?)".

In more serious reads, this is a thoughtful piece on what we really know and don't know about the DNC brouhaha: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2017/11/dnc-clinton-separating-signal-noise

Note that some of the "the Clinton campaign signed a sharing agreement" also holds for the Sanders campaign.


ddt – November 03, 2017 02:29PM Reply Quote
Yeah, economic anxiety is driving Trump voters: https://www.vox.com/2016/9/9/12843120/rolling-coal-government-overreach


John Willoughby – November 03, 2017 02:36PM Reply Quote
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We're doomed.

El Jeffe – November 03, 2017 02:56PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
if one looks back at DJIA (aka the stock market) performance, Trump's watch has done well. If one looks back further. Obama's watch did very well... and further... ok... seems like AMERICA's stock market has done very well.
I've been using Personal Capital, so it's the first time i've seen the total picture in an easy to digest dashboard, that I can dive into. Pretty interesting stuff.

ddt – November 03, 2017 03:00PM Reply Quote
Yeah, the stock market results (which, we have to remember, has about zero correlation to the economy, the health of the economy, or how most people participate in wealth) has been steady. You're right in that what Trump is bragging about is a slightly slacker slope of the growth that has been fairly constant from Obama's recovery efforts from the crash. So basically, he's bragging about something a) beyond his control and 2) he hasn't managed to tank.


El Jeffe – November 03, 2017 03:02PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
agreed. I'm sure on the OTHER HAND... nuke-ing someone like NK would be something one/POTUS could control and devastate the stock market, though.

El Jeffe – November 03, 2017 03:45PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I posited Tim Cook run for POTUS.. I'd like to see it...
All privacy platform. :)


El Jeffe – November 03, 2017 03:51PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
happy with additional revelation (on top of cutting ev subsidy) of 46% top bracket? https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/11/02/the-gops-hidden-46-tax-bracket-000570
seems many would be

El Jeffe – November 03, 2017 03:55PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Nice to see someone tell the truth.

I think Bernie would have won.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/03/2017 03:57PM by El Jeffe.

ddt – November 03, 2017 07:10PM Reply Quote
Funny how the right never believed a word Brazille ever said until now. And seriously, maybe they shouldn't: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2017/11/dnc-clinton-separating-signal-noise


ARL (Moderator) – November 03, 2017 07:12PM Reply Quote
If it's good enough for Elizabeth Warren, it's good enough for me...

People should be angry about this, and not just the douchy BernieBros...

johnny k – November 03, 2017 10:33PM Reply Quote
I don't like that I need to care about this even though I'm an independent. If the GOP wants to focus on Clinton's corruption, whatever—they're the only ones who want to see her run again. Glad some Democrats are keeping this in discussion. Disenfranchisement, whether this or voter suppression or gerrymandering or lobbyists, is the underlying problem that will kill our democracy. I'd prefer we reform it before the uprising.

El Jeffe – November 04, 2017 07:06AM Reply Quote
What a journey.

ddt – November 04, 2017 11:46AM Reply Quote
Agreed about the disenfranchisement issue -- sadly, you have to go to speciality news outlets to read about what's being pushed at state and local levels, often by highly funded national groups (hi Kobach, can we talk about all your funding?).

Funny how the demands of the far left are "let everyone vote" and the demands of the far right are "no voting for you".


El Jeffe – November 05, 2017 08:53PM Reply Quote
What a journey.

ddt – November 05, 2017 11:24PM Reply Quote

El Jeffe – November 06, 2017 04:59AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Wow, that person has "@Hillary"

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