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Madaracs's Avatar Picture Madaracs – January 09, 2008 10:39AM Reply Quote
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/09/2008 10:40AM by Madaracs.

John Willoughby – September 27, 2008 02:08PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
But it dint ryme!

johnny k – September 29, 2008 07:52AM Reply Quote
I've been enjoying the variety packs of Magic Hat - #9 is pretty awesome.
Reminds me, Soup, we need to get that beer at Charlie's sometime. Later this week or after is good... moving tomorrow.

SoupIsGood Food – October 03, 2008 12:40AM Reply Quote
A good lager, to my mind, should have a wholesome, nutty flavor, like fresh butter on a baked potato. Light and dancing on the tongue, with a brief, well-earned finish that evaporates cleanly.

Too often, brewers mistake sweetness for flavor when it comes to lagers, and, sadly, so has Sam Adams with their Black Lager. Cloying, sticky, too close to their really-really-bad Cream Stout for comfort. Oily and malt-like without being malty, with a bitterness that's hops-like without being hoppy, with a soda-sweetness at the bottom that makes the stomach coil and rebel like you've just shotgunned a bad bottle of sherry.

Skip this. Buy the Sam Oktoberfest seasonal. It will make you happier with beer than you have been in a long, long while. Then drink Magic Hat's Jinx, an alleged ale (ale-that's-a-porter), and smile, knowing that you have two favorite seasonals this year.

rino – October 03, 2008 06:43AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
That's a very astute observation. Sweetness in a beer is a bad thing overall. Sweetness does not equal a well structured taste.

stan adams – October 03, 2008 09:39AM Reply Quote
That's a very astute observation. Sweetness in a beer is a bad thing overall. Sweetness does not equal a well structured taste.

I would qualify that. There are the kinds of sweetness that one gets from starchy type things, the fruity sweetness of yeast, the juicy sweetness that you get in red wines, the sort of syrupy sweetness that a Port wine can have. Slight hints of any of those things can be quite nice in a beer. The "who put Kool Aide in my beer" sweetness that some brews end up is the "too be avoided" type. Though, when the mood is right KoolAid and Everclear is a fun drink ;^)

John Willoughby – October 03, 2008 10:47AM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
As a supertaster (check out my cape!), the cloying beers are likely the only ones I could tolerate. I'll have to seek out some Sam Adams Black Lager.

Cloudscout – October 03, 2008 10:59AM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
As a supertaster, do you have a problem with ginger or cilantro?

John Willoughby – October 03, 2008 12:29PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
I don't like spices in general. I can eat a ginger snap if it isn't too strong, I can drink Canada Dry ginger ale (but not stronger brands). Since most spices do not taste good to me, I don't eat them. I wouldn't know cilantro if I tasted it (but I probably wouldn't care for it). I didn't know about this whole supertaster thing until about a year ago, but it explains so much. I always wondered why I couldn't enjoy the foods so many others did.

Cloudscout – October 03, 2008 12:57PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
That's the reason I ask.

Although I like many spices, some of them just don't agree with me.

I can handle ginger in small doses... as you describe, mild ginger-ale or mild ginger snaps are okay. Anything stronger tastes like soap. Seriously. It's like sticking a bar of ivory soap in my mouth. Cilantro is the same way. Any appreciable amount of cilantro tastes like soap to me.

El Jeffe – October 03, 2008 01:53PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Ginger is a taste that I don't like. Nor like the smell. Coffee I love the smell, and can tolerate the taste. I like the flavor mixed in with things. Bolthouse Mocha Protein drink (a lot of good THAT did me - healthy drinks LOL) tastes great.

tomierna (Admin) – October 03, 2008 07:41PM Reply Quote
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I've got a 1/6 keg of Blue Moon's Harvest Moon on order. (Can't deep-link, stupid Flash.)

I hope I've finished my 1/6 keg of Dog Fish Head 90 Minute IPA by the time it comes in.

ddt – October 03, 2008 08:42PM Reply Quote
Hey, I just had a Blue Moon Harvest Moon pumpkin ale. not sweet, good combo with a veg stirfry and fish.


tomierna (Admin) – October 03, 2008 08:51PM Reply Quote
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I had a six pack over the course of the last couple of days to see if I liked it enough for the keg investment.

I did, and so I'll be drinking it for the HOWLIDAY

SoupIsGood Food – October 03, 2008 10:35PM Reply Quote
This is becoming the Month of Beer for me - everyone seems to make a seasonal that knocks it out of the park. The local brew-pub makes an intensely awesome Pumpkin Ale, and my Mom buys two growlers of it for herself every October, and she generally hates beer. It's generally all gone by Halloween. I might pick up a growler myself, as it's damn good stuff: Pumpkin soup you can get a buzz from.

In that spirit, I picked up some Wachusett Octoberfest on a recommendation. Their blueberry beer was more tolerable than most, aiming for the flavor rather than the sweetness, but I still hated it. The Octoberfest is a little more neutral than I generally like beers, but there's an interesting note of fresh apple in there. Not hard cider, or even soft cider... just a hint of raw, off-the-tree apple flavor. Reminds me of Granma's, after we went apple-picking, and she handed the kids the peels as she made cobbler. Apple skins, without the supermarket wax, are awesome.*

( *I just hope to god they didn't actually use apple peelings, as I don't want to wake up with apple palsy. Again.**)

(**Last time I made a serious attempt at getting into wine, I got a bad bottle from an otherwise reputable vintner... I had two glasses of it, and the hangover was the worst I've ever had, and lasted two days. Methyl-alcohol poisoning, likely because grape seeds or skins made its way into the must. Your head hurts, your elbows and knees hurt, and the room won't stop spinning even though you're stone cold sober. This is a serious problem with cider making, as apple seeds and skins will be guaranteed to ferment into methyl rather than ethyl. You need to double-filter the soft cider mash before fermenting, or you'll cripple someone. Ironically, grappa is nothing but skins and seeds... but it's distilled and filtered so many times, nothing is left but ethyl alcohol. This is why it's crazy expensive even tho it's not aged.***)

(***My folks gave me a bottle of Cuervo Gold. Generic, off-the-shelf, low-rent Jose Cuervo Gold tequila. The kicker? It came in a bottle labeled "One Quart." It had been sitting in their liquor cabinet for almost thirty years, because they didn't like tequila. Regular Cuervo is a hangover in a bottle, with notes of rubbing alcohol and cactus spines. Regular Cuervo left to age in-bottle for thirty years is fresh agave nectar with strong black-pepper notes, strained through silk by vestal virgins, and gives you an anti-hangover the next day. The bottle actually gets up an hour before you do, makes you bacon and a sour-cream and chive omelette, irons your shirt, and stands beside your shower with a warm fluffy towel. I've had Cabo Wabo Añejo and Patron Gran Resposado, which they don't even make anymore, and they can't hold a candle.)

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John Willoughby – October 03, 2008 10:38PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Buy a couple bottles of Cuervo Gold now, and put them up for the next Soup generation to enjoy.

tomierna (Admin) – October 03, 2008 11:02PM Reply Quote
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It's not that Cuervo Gold is good after aging, it's that thirty years ago it wasn't spiked with sugar.

SoupIsGood Food – October 03, 2008 11:32PM Reply Quote

If you like sweet beers, pick up a Dutch Lambic Faro - lambics are awesome, because they use natural yeast (the same way Sanfranciscan bakers only need to open a window to get their dough to rise) which give it this raw, untamed taste, but also also awesome because the brewers toss in all kinds of crazy shit to try to tone it down. Raspberry and cherry are the standards, and I'm only mildly in love with a few cherry varieties. The faro lambics, tho! They use fresh sugarcane! Awesome. Sublimely sweet and light and drinkable, the wild yeast character is more notable than the hops, and it's all in all a damn fine beer. I hated beer before my first faro lambic... now I drink even the bitterest, copper-tanged IPAs with aplomb.

tomierna (Admin) – October 04, 2008 12:07AM Reply Quote
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I believe I may have had my first cherry lambic with these guys. They were shady, and I'm pretty sure they were going to take advantage of me and my friends when we were holed up in the hostel.

tliet – October 04, 2008 12:51AM Reply Quote
Heh, fun times, I wish we'd come by train so we really could go bar dwelling. Lambics are nice, although here too we now have cherry flavoured beer that tastes more like an alcoholic cherry coke.

John Willoughby – October 04, 2008 01:05AM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
>alcoholic cherry coke.

Now we're talking! Only you can leave out the alcohol.

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