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ghidorah's Avatar Picture ghidorah – January 07, 2008 11:55PM Reply Quote
his tongue went click click click as his head hit the basket after the guillotine's blade had sliced it cleanly. for a few seconds his eyes blinked and a reddening of the cheeks was noted by the attending physician. the crowd howled in glee...

oh, i'm sorry, wrong topic. click click click is for camera/photo/digital photo discussions which seem to have a place in our hearts.

Originally started by Baha at the old site, I thought it was time we brought it to the new boards

Cloudscout – February 06, 2008 01:25PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!

ghidorah – February 06, 2008 05:07PM Reply Quote
Raise taxes on cavemen. --jw
>WOW! Using the theory of "inverse compensation" any chicks you'd pick-up with that will be expecting one HELLUVA impressive performance in the sack....


Or she might be sadly disappointed. Only her best friends and hairdresser will know which.

Wait, is this veering into Love Stinks territory?

rino – February 06, 2008 05:12PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
...or you could just use the large view of that lens to get your own rocket off, if you know what I mean.

bahamut – February 06, 2008 08:05PM Reply Quote
that thing is whack, my man.

i so want an M8. but can't afford one :(

stan adams – February 07, 2008 11:46AM Reply Quote
I'd be happy with a D3,

heck if I whatever grows out of the 5D is 90% as good as the rumors I'll probably be in line for that:

ghidorah – February 07, 2008 12:57PM Reply Quote
Raise taxes on cavemen. --jw
I gotta say I'm very happy with my K10D

Mighty Mouse – February 07, 2008 01:06PM Reply Quote
My next DSLR will be a full frame sensor. And a Canon since I already have a few lenses. I was disappointed a replacement for the 5D wasn't announced. I'm looking to pick up a 5D when the price drops a little more.

El Jeffe – February 07, 2008 04:52PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
mine will be an supersized sensor. no need to make our highways the same width as roman carts.

What a journey.

ghidorah – February 07, 2008 05:11PM Reply Quote
Raise taxes on cavemen. --jw
Well Bill, Pentax was talking about making a medium format DSLR but I think thats been put on the back burner by the new ownership. OTOH they are hinting at a true professional line (K*D) and a possible student camera (K****D) to be introduced in 09 and this summer respectively.

SoupIsGood Food – February 07, 2008 06:32PM Reply Quote
Wake me up when someone starts making full-frame DSLR bodies in obsolete lensmounts. You scoff, but we're around 5-10 yrs from the point where this will be an economical and viable strategy for a 2nd tier camera maker, the same way Cosina leveraged its "outsourced" know-how into incredibly kick-ass Vöightlander optics and bodies. There's a crapload of highly regarded Minolta MC, Canon FD, Pentax Screw and Contax MM lenses out there. Considering the maker won't have to worry about autofocus (or even aperture-priority autoexposure, if they want), it will make a lot of sense to pick up some enthusiast cash on the side.

I've kept my old Contax MM lenses, and when Vöightlander full-frame DSLR bodies hit the scene in a Yaschica/Contax mount, I will freakin' RULE Flickr.

SoupDaresTo Dream

El Jeffe – February 07, 2008 08:07PM Reply Quote
What a journey.

Never heard of it before now.

What a journey.

stan adams – February 08, 2008 10:34AM Reply Quote
Great story/interview:

Money Quote
from above link
When asked about his motives in disassembling a Leica to produce Japanese made high-grade 35mm cameras, Yoshida explained in later years:
"I just disassembled the camera without any specific plan, but simply to take a look at each part. I found there were no special items like diamonds inside the camera. The parts were made from brass, aluminum, iron and rubber. I was surprised that when these inexpensive materials were put together into a camera, it demanded an exorbitant price. This made me angry".

stan adams – February 08, 2008 10:54AM Reply Quote
As for DSLRs for obsolete mounts, I just don't see a way for the full frame sensors to work their way down in price. The sensor makers have no trouble selling to "up market" specialty house http://dpi-digitalphoto.com/catalog.php, but down market? Not in their intrest. I suppose if LG or a similar place put the effort into a ff sensor they'd sell to anybody, and there might be a channel of getting obsolete/surplus sensors but that seems like it would compete another niche -- if was not that long ago that hobbyists/ astrophotographers had to use active cooling to get decent s/n from the early sensors, now they scoop up anything they can get and outfit 'em with FW or USB : http://www.astronomycameras.com/en/products/

El Jeffe – February 08, 2008 11:44AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
well, there are not too many man-made things that are full of mysteries. Perhaps NASA tests. But 99.5% of stuff is pretty basic stuff.

What a journey.

SoupIsGood Food – February 08, 2008 07:42PM Reply Quote
Law of supply and demand. Was a time APS-C was the sexy new thing, now it's the oldest of hats. Sony is now making full-frame sensors, even though they have no intention of making a full-frame system themselves. (Not =that= many Minolta fanatics out there wedded to their old glass... the Alpha is selling on its own merits.) A lot of the "brand name" makers have outsourced the manufacture, and even the design at times, of their SLR's to companies like Cosina. One of them is going to realize they can make some cash on the side selling DSLR bodies to enthusiasts who will pay top-of-the-line autofocus, program exposure money for a camera that doesn't need either.

~ Soop

rino – February 09, 2008 11:28AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
I would like the pro-sumer lines to get FF sensors. I'm not upgrading my 10D yet simply because the benefits aren't that outrageous of the line so far. The 40D does offer some very nice advantages over my 10D though... and I'm close to pulling that trigger.

bahamut – February 09, 2008 11:32AM Reply Quote
well, don't hold yor breath.

They're not going to give the 10D series FF ever. They've got their own set of lenses to address that and more consumers want tele lenses than wide angles. Frankly, people don't get wide lenses while tele lenses are obvious for little league and junk like that.

rino – February 09, 2008 11:36AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
Interesting take. Ya think? There are special lenses to account of the 1/6 magnification? I just use standard lenses so my 24mm is 38mm. I do like the magnification factor for tele. But the full frames have so much resolution.

Just seems like natural evolution begs for more and better for products not the same.

There's this film being produced in stop motion (using iStop Motion btw) using a 5D. Edison and Leo (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0907678/). They have to down sample the files to highdef resolution!

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/09/2008 11:38AM by rino.

bahamut – February 09, 2008 01:13PM Reply Quote
I would prefer FF on the low end, but it's not going to happen. No matter how you cut it, the FF sensors are more pricey than the APS crop. The prosumer stuff is staying cropped unless you think 5D is prosumer. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF-S_lens_mount for the lenses.

There may be a slightly lower end 5D, but it's unlikely. This is the general consensus from years of reading dpreview and the other main sites.

There are some issues with FF sensors too. See http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/full_frame_vs_aps-c.html There's no question I get serious vignetting with my lenses on the 5D.

I want a FF M8.

bahamut – February 09, 2008 01:15PM Reply Quote
And wtf is going on with my messages reputedly being spam? Aren't there some access permissions we can set for those of us who have been with the boards, for what, over a decade now?

I had to delete this line to make the previous one work. http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/full_frame_vs_aps-c.html

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