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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 08, 2007 02:41AM Reply Quote
Film, TV, video DVD, DV, Flash. Put the Multi to use here, folks.

rino – January 24, 2008 01:01PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.

Cloudscout – January 24, 2008 04:37PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
I guess I wasn't alone in my belief that Baseline's list of Top 10 Hacker Movies of All Time was sorely lacking. I check the Baseline site every few days to read their articles and today I noticed that the headline for that story had changed from "Top 10" to "Top 20". Here are the movies they've added to the list:

Strange Days
Real Genius
Weird Science
War Games
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Star Wars
2001: A Space Odyssey

They included a "Bonus" movie as well, "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb".

They also ask readers to submit their favorite hacker movie.

SoupIsGood Food – January 24, 2008 10:42PM Reply Quote
I liked Hackers, a lot.

It seems very trite and quaint now, and even in the mid-'90s, it was pretty much 5 years behind then-current trends, but they put in a lot of effort to really understand the =types= of people who inhabited the underground hacker scene just as the internet blossomed, when the MoD/LoD BBS crowd gave way to L0pht and the CdC and their like, when the FBI attended HOPE and DefCON secretly with weird cover stories rather than up front with namebadges, when Mondo2000 and Wired weren't stale self-parodies.

No, most of the hackers I knew weren't hollywood-pretty (tho some were), and no, fractals didn't blossom into hi-def brilliance on an Apple IIGS Woz Edition when you logged into a remote system, and mainframes were mostly angle-iron and circuit boards, not glass and cool lighting effects. But these were metaphors for real people and real things, and in our geeky heart of hearts, it was awesome to see what we were feeling as we tinkered with the machine represented as a dazzling special effect, and to see friends we admired and loved portrayed by Angelina Jolie and Matthew Lillard.

And, Cloverfield rules, but the monster design sucks. This was the movie that should have been the American Godzilla... hell, even the sleek, fast moving, athletic lizard-thing would have really fit into the overall style. The Cloverfield monster was spindly where it should have been stout, stout where it should have been spindly, and the "monster mouth as a fanged vagina" trope is so over and done with, it hurts.

But it really wasn't about the monster. It was about love, friendship, determination and humanity in the face of helplessness, the rewards of hope where there is none, and shaking the camera enough so people puke.

~ Soop

Cloudscout – January 24, 2008 11:01PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
Great characterization of Hackers, Soup.

John Willoughby – January 25, 2008 12:05AM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Great characterization of fanged vaginas, Soup.

Madaracs – January 26, 2008 12:24PM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
Star Trek II: The Hack of Khan

El Jeffe – January 28, 2008 07:50PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
COME ON!! Sarah Conner Chron... REPEAT!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!


What a journey.

Madaracs – January 29, 2008 10:24AM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
I've not even checked my DVR for the last couple...

El Jeffe – February 01, 2008 07:22AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Watched Lord of War last night. First movie we've taken time to view in what seems months.
Pretty strong 'anti' movie. (Anti-2A parlance)
I kept wanting to like it, but it reminded me of the bad side of CRASH or the horrible movie RUSH (the only redeeming thing was Clapton's Tears in Heaven song for that movie). I found myself guessing/vocalizing every character's next line. I'm amazed that my wife puts up with me doing that so much; but I'm usually 'spot on'.

A few major plot line flaws. I keep wanting to like Nick Cage (in general), but I'm stuck at thinking his acting pinnacle was when he uttered "Well, Peter Piper picked a peck of pickles!.... I GUESS I DID!" in the move Valley Girl. That, by the way, is the hardest I've EVER laughed at a movie line...eventually throwing up.

At least I was mesmerized by the leading lady. For a brunette, she rocked hard. Seemed like a pretty Sondra Bullock, not appearing so much to be a teen boy I suppose.

This movie would have been best lead by George Clooney, imo. Or, since the story line was similar and later copied and reworked, Leo as he was in Blood Diamonds. I was very impressed with the co-star, who played his brother, Jared Leto. Can't recall him in anything, though I have seen movies he's been in.

The Russian language content probably excited me the most. Though I thought Cage's ability to deliver Russian dialog was horrible. His uncle's was great to listen to.

Summary: Avoid

What a journey.

Mokers (Moderator) – February 01, 2008 11:15AM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
I really liked Lord of War. I don't think it had that much to do with the second amendment. And I think the point of the story is if you don't have assholes like Nicolas Cage selling guns, another asshole will come and sell guns.

Then again, I do not try and look for political messages in movies and give the filmmakers the benefit of the doubt. The topic came up when I was discussing 300 to a friend and he said it was made to glorify war and violence. I gave about five counter arguments to the movie including, "or maybe it was a movie loosely based on a graphic novel loosely based on a small portion of Greek History". You can really make any movie say anything you want if look at in a certain context.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/01/2008 11:21AM by Mokers.

El Jeffe – February 01, 2008 12:32PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
It had nothing to do with 2A. I just used that common term in a broader sense, which then unbinds it from its origins as a term. Curiously, what is a non-USA person or movement called that is anti-gun? And again, rightfully pointed out, this movie is NOT about that. Just portrays guns in a more negative light. Just LIKE blood diamond portrayed diamonds in a potentially negative light.

Aside from that component, and totally apart from it, I thought it was a forgettable movie. But, I DID stick it out to the end. But like RUSH, 20/20 now tells me I should not have rented it. There's 50 cents I won't get back! :)

What a journey.

rino – February 01, 2008 01:24PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
I love the movie Crash.

El Jeffe – February 01, 2008 01:39PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Yes. I loved CRASH, too. And I think even here on the (old) board, I said it was one of the best I had seen that year. And lo and behold, it won!

What a journey.

Madaracs – February 01, 2008 02:55PM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
I just sent mail to sjobs.

"Your business model is incompatible with my consumption model"

Madaracs – February 17, 2008 09:22PM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
Glen A. Larson redux of Knight Rider is on right now. I'm under-impressed by their lack of creativity where "cutting edge" is concerned. They had to throw a threesome and a lesbian scene in just to get themselves on the map? Lame. I think they probably just alienated a great number of 30 somethings. Not that there isn't a place for that... The theme song was alright. I'll keep watching anyway.

Mighty Mouse – February 17, 2008 11:21PM Reply Quote
If the best you can say about it is "the theme song was alright", I'll stay far far away. Wasn't going to watch it anyway, just cuz I think the car choice is uber lame. That right there should have told you it wasn't going to be cutting edge.

Oh well, at least it has a leg up on Enterprise in the theme song category. Worst. Theme song. Evah!

El Jeffe – February 17, 2008 11:29PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
i could not watch one 60 seconds in a row of it.

What a journey.

Cloudscout – February 17, 2008 11:46PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
That's exactly what I thought at the beginning. The threesome and the lesbian thing. It was tacky... especially given the fact that neither had anything to do with anything later on (with the possible exception of the kid's statement about monogamy being unnatural).

The movie did get better. I found myself guessing characters' lines before they said them, but it didn't completely suck. Hoff's cameo was pathetically short. I had at least hoped they would get him in an action scene.

I was also disappointed that William Daniels didn't have a cameo. They did show a "glimpse" of the original KITT at the beginning. Kinda weak.

Oh, given the fact that the commercials all make a big deal out of Microsoft's SYNC technology in the Ford cars, I thought it was interesting that the new KITT has a new Apple keyboard built in.


The fact that the armor plating on the car is based on nano-technology and doesn't work if the computer isn't functional seems odd. The original KITT was bulletproof even without electricity. Heh.

At the end, I had a feeling they were on an airplane rather than a semi trailer as they obviously wanted us to believe. When they started opening the gate, I thought they were going to do a parachute drop or something, though... the plane taking off after the car pulled out was an interesting touch.

I'll probably watch some of the series to see where they go with it.

El Jeffe – February 18, 2008 12:17AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Combine Bionic Woman and this and ...aww, what am I saying.

What a journey.

Cloudscout – February 18, 2008 12:27AM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
It would have been cool if they could have done a mini series with The Hoff and the original KITT and have it take place in the late 80s or early 90s. Just 4 or 5 episodes.

By the way. The movie tonight had some REALLY shitty green screen and CGI work. There was a scene where KITT is driving down the road and the camera is supposedly pulling away and the car's movement is all wrong. First of all, it gets bigger in relation to the road that it's on and second, it's position on the road changes in a way that I can only describe as "unnatural". There was also a scene inside the car where you can see part of a support pillar is sort of missing... it looks like they got a little ambitious when removing parts of the image when they overlayed it on the false background scenery.

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