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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 08, 2007 02:41AM Reply Quote
Film, TV, video DVD, DV, Flash. Put the Multi to use here, folks.

El Jeffe – February 18, 2008 09:26AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Was TOONCES driving?


If so, it's commonplace. :)

What a journey.

johnny k – February 18, 2008 11:07AM Reply Quote
Nice, thanks. I just had to look up Toonces and watch a couple sketches.

ddt – February 18, 2008 12:05PM Reply Quote
only saw one toonces but it cracked me the hell up -- thanks for the reminder.

ddt

Madaracs – February 18, 2008 03:36PM Reply Quote
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El Jeffe
Combine Bionic Woman and this and ...aww, what am I saying.

Bionic Woman has gotten better too.

Madaracs – February 18, 2008 04:45PM Reply Quote
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Cloudscout: That's exactly what I thought at the beginning. The threesome and the lesbian thing. It was tacky... especially given the fact that neither had anything to do with anything later on (with the possible exception of the kid's statement about monogamy being unnatural).

Knight Rider has no chance as a series as it stands.

If it was attempting to address serious moral and social issues then it failed. The two first scenes alone conflict with one another. Knight Rider can't be a drama, be cheesy and an action series all at once. It's fine to have a drama that can address social issues such as same-sex relationships, or even a moment when bad judgment is shown and the morality of it is later checked. This never happened with the threesome scene. And besides telling the audience that one of the lead characters was a lesbian, that scene served absolutely no purpose whatsoever. If you're a show called Knight Rider, you're either an intelligent adult drama or--you're a fun, sometimes cheesy action series that the whole family can enjoy. The first 4 minutes of the show almost had me changing the channel.

Knight Rider was conflicted for much of its early plot--scratch that--most of its plot. The less than stellar makeup (at the mansion scene), bad CGI (KITT on the highway), poorly written technobabble (as they steal KITT's creator's "hard drives") and the lack of any real serious plot tells me that you have an inexperienced screenwriter and with no on-staff writers to make edits on set. The director and editors were also at fault as there were holes in the plot big enough for the original series', Goliath, the evil semi truck to drive through. For instance, KITT, a super-car, can travel from northern California to Vegas in less than 4 hours. Sometime in northern CA, the bad guys were chasing KITT in a helicopter. KITT evaded so they gave up and landed. Upon KITT and heroine arriving in Vegas, said bad-guys are already there and waiting for them.

They can't possibly expect an intelligent adult to appreciate both drama and cheesy at the same time. And kids just won't get it. They'll love the car but the parents won't let them watch because they're too young for some of the adult themes.

The audience that tuned in last night is too familiar with the original show to not want their kids to watch! After my brother learned of the fabulous opening, a very disappointed 10-Year-Old nephew of mine will not be able to watch. "Yeah, you'll love it! It's got a talking car! Oh wait, never mind---it also has loose women and a lesbian cop in it. Might be a little too progressive for you. Maybe not quite your speed."

Cloudscout:The movie did get better. I found myself guessing characters' lines before they said them, but it didn't completely suck. Hoff's cameo was pathetically short. I had at least hoped they would get him in an action scene.

Agreed. It did get a little better but it took too long. I'll be surprised if it gets renewed as a series--which is really sad because it had real potential to be a fun continuation of the original series.

Cloudscout: I was also disappointed that William Daniels didn't have a cameo. They did show a "glimpse" of the original KITT at the beginning. Kinda weak.

That would have been great.

Cloudscout: At the end, I had a feeling they were on an airplane rather than a semi trailer as they obviously wanted us to believe. When they started opening the gate, I thought they were going to do a parachute drop or something, though... the plane taking off after the car pulled out was an interesting touch.

Yeah that was neat. Bigger concept than the original. But I think it would have been a classier touch to give the fans of the original series the Semi Truck ending. Sort of the icing on the cake if you will. But instead they sorta blew out the candles. It almost felt like the writers were trying to say "Yeah, we're back, we're bigger and badder, we're global, this ain't your daddy's Knight Rider." But really, won't it be expensive to fly all around the world dropping KITT off for an episode? And if you're making a sequel, shouldn't you respect your daddy's Knight Rider? I don't know.


Cloudscout: I'll probably watch some of the series to see where they go with it.

Me too. but I also went to Star Wars Episode 1 more than once. So take that with a grain of salt.

Cloudscout: The movie tonight had some REALLY shitty green screen and CGI work. There was a scene where KITT is driving down the road and the camera is supposedly pulling away and the car's movement is all wrong. First of all, it gets bigger in relation to the road that it's on and second, it's position on the road changes in a way that I can only describe as "unnatural".

Yeah, did you notice how you never saw them in the car in Vegas from a distance? Heh. They just had reflection effects on the car when they pulled into town.

The car didn't just move unnaturally... it sort of hovered diagonally across the film. :-)



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Cloudscout – February 20, 2008 12:42AM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
I made a comment in another forum about the "Wally Factor". Now, this term goes back a ways and has been used a lot among people I know. I believed it to be from a Dilbert comic strip where they figure that everyone's jobs are safe as long as Wally is still around because if there are layoffs, Wally would be the first to go. Except I can't find that strip now. I can't find any reference to that strip. There's even a handy Dilbert Strip Search Engine but I haven't been able to find it that way either. Did I imagine this strip or does someone else here know what I'm talking about?

Cloudscout – February 20, 2008 12:57AM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
Okay, I found it. Sort of. The right search term finally yielded a result in Google's Book Search but all I can see is a badly OCR'ed version of the text in the search results since the page it's on in the book is not available for preview on Google. If anybody has the book "What Would Wally Do?" the strip is on page 165. Maybe you could scan that page for me?

John Willoughby – February 20, 2008 12:33PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Scot Adams has said that Wally is based on a real person, a very bright engineer, who determined that it would be much more profitable for him to be fired than to quit. So he set about the process of getting fired with brilliantly planned display of incompetence. Over time, the character of Wally has evolved to become an engineer utterly devoid of motivation. I love Wally.

stan adams – February 20, 2008 12:45PM Reply Quote
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John Willoughby
Scot Adams has said that Wally is based on a real person, a very bright engineer, who determined that it would be much more profitable for him to be fired than to quit. So he set about the process of getting fired with brilliantly planned display of incompetence. Over time, the character of Wally has evolved to become an engineer utterly devoid of motivation. I love Wally.

Only ONE??? Most companies have entire FLOORS of such staff... At least until the bad guys from "Private Equity Firm of your NIGHTMARES" buy out the firm and flush the "early retirement incentive packages" into the toilet.

Cloudscout – February 20, 2008 01:21PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
Yeah, he said that it was after PacBell had implemented a policy where the bottom 10 percent of all employees would get laid off every year or something like that. So this guy made it his goal to be in the bottom 10 percent so he would get the severance package.

John Willoughby – February 20, 2008 03:37PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Not CS's comic, but one of my favorites:

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Madaracs – February 20, 2008 04:29PM Reply Quote
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Status of the (Network) shows we may or may not care about:
(News about their demise or returning)

FOX:

February:
-Back To You (February 26)

April:
-Bones, (April 14)
-House (No details)

Finished for the Season:
-Prison Break

Canceled:
-K-Ville

ABC:
Finished for the Season:
-Pushing Daisies
-Dirty Sexy Money
-Private Practice

April: (Dates not available)
-Desperate Housewives
-Grey's Anatomy
-Brothers & Sisters
-Ugly Betty
-Samantha Who?
-Men In Trees


NBC:

Finished this Season (but returning this fall!):
-Life
-Chuck

Canceled:
-Journeyman
-Bionic Woman

Back in April:
-Name Is Earl
-30 Rock
-The Office
-Scrubs
-ER
-Law & Order: SVU
-Law & Order
-Medium

Heroes will be completely held back until fall.

Undecided (may be canceled):
-Las Vegas
-Friday Night Lights

CW:
Everybody Loves Chris and Aliens in America produced full seasons before the strike. Both are returning.

Back in March:
-The Game

Canceled:
-Girlfriends

April:
-Gossip Girl (April 21)
-Reaper (April 22)
-Smallville (April 17)
-Supernatural

CBS:
March:
-Two and a Half Men (March 17)
-How I Met Your Mother (March 17)
-The Big Bang Theory (March 17)
-CSI: Miami (March 24)
-Cold Case (March 30)

April:
-The Rules of Engagement
-CSI: NY (April 2)
-Criminal Minds (April 2)
-CSI [Las Vegas] (April 3)
-Without A Trace (April 3)
-NCIS (April 8)
-Ghost Whisperer (no date)
-Moonlight (no date)
-NUMB3RS. (no date)
-Shark (no date)

Not back til next season:
The Unit (possibly canceled)



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El Jeffe – February 20, 2008 04:34PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
BSG?

What a journey.

Madaracs – February 20, 2008 04:39PM Reply Quote
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Not a network show but is scheduled to air March. Woot!

Here is a link to what the writers won or didn't win.



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Madaracs – February 20, 2008 04:45PM Reply Quote
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Funny. The SciFi website has BSG "scheduled to return in March" on the front page but then one link later everything says "April 4th". Last time I checked, April was not March. LAMERS. Pretty soon they'll change it to May, then June, then Never...

With all of the delays, if they hadn't planned this as their last season the show would be over before 4th season began. They should just make Mini-Series from now on. That's what they basically gave us anyway. 13 episodes a crack, split seasons... sheesh.

El Jeffe – February 20, 2008 04:49PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Applespeak = April 4th = March 33rd

What a journey.

Madaracs – February 20, 2008 04:56PM Reply Quote
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I'm trapped in google.


GET ME OUT!

Madaracs – February 20, 2008 05:08PM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
Not that it matters to a lot of us here... but I may have spoken too soon about the Bionic Woman. It appears they have 5 episodes left to complete... though that is not entirely certain either. Most sources that contradict the cancellation are old (decemberish) but there are a couple of sites reporting that NBC has not canceled the show just yet.

Dr Phred (Moderator) – February 20, 2008 06:33PM Reply Quote
owned by the mothership.
BSG writers have reported back:
Jane Espenson:
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Guess where I've been these last two days? Obviously, I, and all my co-workers, have been back at work in the Battlestar Galactica writers' room. Fun! It's all rush-rush-rush as we hurry to catch back up with our own brains.

The first thing we did was indulge in a film festival. We watched all the episodes that have been filmed so far. Not only did this remind us of the events of the season so far, but it immersed us in the world of the show: the rhythms of the story-telling and the texture of the scenes. I also found that, especially with the added time, I was better able to judge what worked and what didn't work in the episodes I wrote. I learn something about the show every day, and I only regret that we'll be finished with the run of the show before I achieve the level of competence I really want to have.


rino – February 23, 2008 12:48PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
So Hulu is their golden goose? That's the best they can do?

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