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bahamut's Avatar Picture bahamut – December 09, 2007 10:56PM Reply Quote
Well, it's about time.

tliet – January 22, 2008 03:11PM Reply Quote
If sales people are warning customers that while Moto phones look cool, the UI is horrible and unusable than you're in trouble aren't you?

In short, the UI sucked, people getting a Moto got rid of it after a year for something that worked.

johnny k – January 22, 2008 03:31PM Reply Quote
stan, I thought you meant the contents of the Michigan Ave. office itself. I know who the product designers working there are, and they're pretty hip.

stan adams
Moto has grave problems to overcome in the fact that now no one wants to pay a premium for a phone w/o a real usable browser/email client. High end phones almost instantly morphed from "jewelry/touchable art/compact-single function" to "connectedness device" with the iPhone.


bahamut – January 24, 2008 09:28AM Reply Quote


maybe itunes isn't so attractive after all?

tomierna (Admin) – January 24, 2008 09:30AM Reply Quote
Hideously Unnatural
Is Netflix shipping this Mac support right now?

bahamut – January 24, 2008 09:36AM Reply Quote
No. But they are shipping the free movies for the vast majority of the PC market right now.

rino – January 24, 2008 12:13PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
iTunes is still attractive. I've never used the Netflix feature since I don't run Windows so can't speak to that experience.

I am about to cancel my Netflix account though... might be a good stock to short in late 08 or 09. Then again...

bahamut – January 24, 2008 01:33PM Reply Quote

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Simon – January 24, 2008 06:46PM Reply Quote

Netflix Inc said on Wednesday it hoped to be able to support Web-based viewing on Apple Inc's popular Mac computers in 2008.

hmmm, dunno about that. It works for you tube but feature films?

bahamut – January 25, 2008 07:49AM Reply Quote
it's better quality and interface than youtube.

but watch out mac, your buddy iphone is having a tough time.

oh shit, oh damn, oh no. ... it was all a lie!


Mokers (Moderator) – January 25, 2008 12:40PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
I think Apple might be overstating future demand slightly (20,000 iPhones a day - I think not), but I don't think they are lying about sales figures.


stan adams – January 31, 2008 11:06AM Reply Quote
Did it suddenly dawn on Mr. Big Brain that trying to sell computers int he same way that one sells knock off sun glasses or creepy Israeli Dead Sea Hand Creme is not exactly "brand building" --

El Jeffe – January 31, 2008 11:14AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I look at it from another perspective.

IF someone CAN make a profit selling "Your Name On A Grain of RIce" in those cheap stands; then why for heaven's sake CAN'T big, "real" companies be able to skim SOME sort of extra revenue stream off of them, too? Or, perhaps, at least get your NAME out there just that bit MORE, etc.

What a journey.

stan adams – January 31, 2008 12:10PM Reply Quote
That was (is) the problem though -- the "user experience" at the Dell Kiosk was the suck, no better than Staples/Best Buy where Dell did not actually have to shell out salary and rent. Stupid idea.

ddt – January 31, 2008 12:49PM Reply Quote
is this right? i seem to remember device-specific install disks for other macs in the past... ?


John Willoughby – January 31, 2008 12:54PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
It'll all be rolled into the standard install disks eventually.

El Jeffe – January 31, 2008 12:56PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
It's leakage control on the rumors that are so much Olestra fodder.

What a journey.

Mokers (Moderator) – January 31, 2008 01:39PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
is this right? i seem to remember device-specific install disks for other macs in the past... ?


Yeah, the copy of OS X that comes with your Mac will only install on your Mac, it's not a retail disk. However, the updated version of the 10.5 install DVD will contain drivers for the MacBook air.

Mighty Mouse – January 31, 2008 02:45PM Reply Quote
That's always the case with new Macs. The disk that comes with the Mac Pro won't install on anything else, either.

Talk about making news out of nothing.

Oh, and this statement:


Previous install discs would work on any Mac (even the restore discs included with the Mac could be hacked to work anywhere)

Is not true. There are some exceptions, but the general rule is the discs that come with your Mac will only work with that Mac.

El Jeffe – January 31, 2008 02:49PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I got some discs with my one iMac G3 that works on my other iMac G3s!!! ;)

What a journey.

stan adams – February 01, 2008 02:24PM Reply Quote
WOW -- if this happens I think that no would would be beaming more brightly than TSO --


While the iPhone cannot be said to have single handedly destroyed Moto's reason for thinking that it had a handset business, it surely has caused more than a few people inside and outside of Moto to rethink things in a most drastic way. Moto without cell handsets is a lot healthier company, but that that health would be short lived if Moto were to strike out in the work direction. If they can get a good price for the handset business they might be in a position to join forces with TellLabs, Nortel, Juniper or some other infrastructure oriented company. Don't forget that Cisco owns Scientific Atlanta which is/was the cheif rival of Moto for cable boxes and associated tech.

So many of TSO "discussions" with Moto execs must have seemed like "dudes, you have no idea how badly your world is coming undone" and the suits looking back him with a look not unlike that of a alien from plant run by insect sized creatures that have a million times the visitors' mental powers -- "What is with this arrogant hippy freak and his breaks for yoga. We make chips that he needs to put his shiny metal boxes on the store shelves. Sure we'll shove his stupid audio software into our phones to make a buck, but help him change the landscape of personal audio. Get real. What a light weight..."


I wonder in Nolan Bushnell knows what it feels like to have been so close to getting on the good side of something that SJ was involved with-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_Bushnell#Atari

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