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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 08, 2007 02:37AM Reply Quote
Talk about industry stock market mumbo-jumbo here.

johnny k – June 20, 2009 08:31AM Reply Quote
You jerk, Steve! I bug-eyed at this. Given this, it's amazing to see his involvement in the business at all lately.
Wonder whether having proven that he doesn't need to be there will dampen the effect on the stock. I'd be happy with him taking it easy and just expending his energy guiding products from the couch from now on.

stan adams – June 20, 2009 10:46AM Reply Quote
5 year survival rate at about 75%, but that is for the whole population. http://www.liverfoundation.org/education/info/transplant/

SJ has (had had) pancreatice cancer. That is not nearly as rosy: http://cancer.emedtv.com/pancreatic-cancer/pancreatic-cancer-survival-rates-p2.html

Then again those stats probably do not include a whole helluva lot of people that start a company , get kicked out of it, found a another company which they use to take over the place were kicked out, invent two whole categories of modern life, serve as CEO for two demanding companies and still fires people for not being good at pushing elevator buttons...

El Jeffe – June 20, 2009 11:06AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
It still sounds bad to me. Of course, pancreatic cancer alone sounds bad, and sounded bad to me in the first place.

John Willoughby – June 20, 2009 12:14PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
I hope that Steve leads the life that he wants to lead, for whatever time he has left. If he wants to rule Apple as the crazed demi-god he has been, that's great. If he wants to leave Apple and spend his time with his family, or on some new project, fine. If he wants to skydive naked on mescaline while screaming verses from the Bhagavad Gita, that works, too. I hope that he has decades left, and as a billionaire he may have more medical options than most.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/20/2009 12:15PM by John Willoughby.

stan adams – June 20, 2009 12:25PM Reply Quote
Amen to all of it JW...

Bruce Robertson – June 23, 2009 05:48PM Reply Quote
It has been said that only now does SJ truly appreciate the value of "cut and paste".

(quoting fellow dBug member)

El Jeffe – June 23, 2009 06:48PM Reply Quote
What a journey.

stan adams – July 21, 2009 05:26PM Reply Quote
Not really buried in the announcement is the statement that F500 firms are adopting the iPhone...


I know my pharmy SIL has one from her SanFran/Germany based corporate overlords. But no Mac. Yet. Maybe someday she will get a real alternative to Redmonds hegemony ...

ARL (Moderator) – July 21, 2009 06:47PM Reply Quote
I know things are a mess in the US still but there's talk that interest rates may rise again here as soon as the end of this year.

stan adams – July 21, 2009 07:25PM Reply Quote

Interest rate talk today from Fed Chair was "all good" -- in fact he laid out a range of tools that that they are prepared to deploy to unwind the Fed from the risking any inflationary pressure on the economy:


My guess is this is motivated by several factors. Of course there are nutty types that will ALWAYS howl that the Fed is a den of power mad thieves, but transparency and directness tend to make that crowd look foolish. Secondarily there is a bit of "torquemada" in Bernecke exposing the "instruments of truth" to reluctant lenders that seem to feign trepidation at lending but are showing huge profits to let them know that if they do not wish to participate in growing the economy the Fed may do some things to make it much harder for them to profit. And I think most of all the laying out of nice sound grown up plans shows that someone has their head screwed on right --and that someone very much does not to lose the faith of the bankers, the American people, and most of all the administration, because if Obama falters and does not reappoint the Fed Chairmen WHOEVER else goes in would seen as sign of chaotic change and the markets will go all non-linear again...

Now does that mean short term rates are going to sit on the floor through the 2010 elections? Probably not, but anything more than a very very gradual rise is extremely unlikely given the tools that Bernecke is prepared to deploy. You cannot have rising rates and a money supply that is being shrunk faster than heads in drive through psychiatry practice...

tliet – July 22, 2009 02:17AM Reply Quote
One thing I never hear people (Including helicopter Ben) talk about; the willingness of other countries (China most notably, Japan is somewhat more polite about it) buying up US (and EU) debt. Sure, they have to keep buying it (to a certain extend), as their economies would falter immediately if they would stop doing it overnight, but I'm afraid the roaring 90s and 00s are never going to come back.

So, Ben can print all the money he wants, once the buyers of debt feel it's enough to be paid next to nothing for buying up funny money debt, he's bound to do something about the income situation of overseas institutional investors; raising the interest.

stan adams – July 22, 2009 07:26AM Reply Quote
It is talked about, albeit in an sorta guarded way. Econo types know that there are always "alternative" uses for the sort of extraordinarly low risk 'investment' in US Gove debt. Things like money market funds come to mind. Those money market funds would then put the money into T-bills and the pump would still flow, minus a little fee for the trouble,

If some one is a of the low risk mindset they won't put cash anywhere else unless the US were to be run by nut job types that subscribe to theories that one sees promulgated on internet message boards. So unless that happens no real reason to think that anything else will ever be lower risk than US Gov debt...

stan adams – August 03, 2009 11:06AM Reply Quote
Hmm, guess who is the FTC won't be able to investigate: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124930285423801287.html

Cloudscout – August 03, 2009 03:09PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!

bahamut – August 03, 2009 08:12PM Reply Quote
So Congress may a-ok jailbreaking (which would mean, implicitly, that Apple has to stop fixing it).
FCC is after Apple.
FTC is after Apple.

Where Justice? Then it'd be a free for all, four-holes filled fuckfest. A good way for Steve to bid the world a fond farewell. Go down in flames, likened to Big Brother.

Karma is a bitch, dude.

El Jeffe – August 03, 2009 09:09PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Is the ex-VP still on aapl board? Still a Democrat?

rino – August 04, 2009 11:44AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
Meh -- I find the hallelujahs louder on the anti-anti crowd now that Apple has a little criticism than anything else in the pro-pro camp. Plus I have the word fanboy, despise it, dismiss its use and the user.

Apple is a company. They felt they needed to do something to protect _some business interest_.
As a stock holder, watcher, user I would certainly appreciate an explanation but guess what? A company doesn't give a shit about that and will keep it secret as long as it has to... we may never know what went down.

I am more optimistic than not.

bahamut – August 04, 2009 08:23PM Reply Quote
I hope you're right for your sake. I wouldn't have wanted to start a needless war with Google. To protect what? Nobody cares about Mobileme.

rino – August 04, 2009 08:40PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
I'd warrant that is has a lot to do with the ATT agreement.

For my sake? I have a horse in the game (market) but that's what stop limit orders are for... ride sally ride.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/04/2009 08:41PM by rino.

Dr Phred (Moderator) – August 06, 2009 07:58AM Reply Quote
owned by the mothership.
12 years ago today. I was in the crowd. I'm sure I boo'd at least once.

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