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Loonie Legislators and that Wacky Webernet Thingo

John Willoughby's Avatar Picture John Willoughby – January 01, 2008 03:13AM Reply Quote
The topic that just keeps on giving.

ARL (Moderator) – February 26, 2009 08:11PM Reply Quote

tliet – February 27, 2009 12:45AM Reply Quote
The outcome couldn't really have be anything else, could it? I mean, in a free and open society, blocking free flowing internet traffic is suicide.

El Jeffe – March 04, 2009 10:50PM Reply Quote
What a journey.

ARL (Moderator) – March 04, 2009 10:58PM Reply Quote
argy-bargy means push-and-shove, yell, swear etc.

El Jeffe – March 04, 2009 11:01PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
That's what I thought. Just never heard of it, nor its origins.

rino – March 10, 2009 10:22AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.

...also the title of a Squeeze album!

tliet – March 18, 2009 01:43AM Reply Quote
Hey guys down there?
When will you guys start rioting?

Simon – March 18, 2009 06:20AM Reply Quote
wow. last I heard the censorship thing was dead though (in Australia).

tliet – March 18, 2009 08:03AM Reply Quote
It's turned stealth now. Much more effective as you just noticed. I thought it would die a silent death as well, but apparently the last couple of years must have left the current governments feel vindicated in their 'war on terror' to do stuff like this. (For the children of course)

ARL (Moderator) – March 18, 2009 08:44PM Reply Quote
Protecting children from online porn and ... dentists?


But about half of the sites on the list are not related to child porn and include a slew of online poker sites, YouTube links, regular gay and straight porn sites, Wikipedia entries, euthanasia sites, websites of fringe religions such as satanic sites, fetish sites, Christian sites, the website of a tour operator and even a Queensland dentist.

"It seems to me as if just about anything can potentially get on the list," Landfelt said.

John Willoughby – March 18, 2009 08:47PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
So, the Great Pr0nwall of Australia remains.

ARL (Moderator) – March 18, 2009 08:53PM Reply Quote
I thought it had been scuttled in the Senate. It's going to fail regardless.

Even regular "concerned parents" are opposed to the system in its current form. And so they should be...

appropos of nothing: here's Fake Steve Conroy...

rino – March 21, 2009 07:55AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.

Let's write our reps and senators to nip this kind of behavior in the bud. We do actually want dumb pipes, the bigger the better for an unfettered marketplace.

ARL (Moderator) – March 22, 2009 08:47PM Reply Quote
From the article:


On the other hand, it's also how ISPs all over the world operate right now. Aussie ISPs like BigPond routinely offer bandwidth caps that appear absurdly low by world standards (how does AUS$29.95 a month for a 256Kbps connection and a 200MB cap grab you?)—but they also routinely offer "unlimited" access to preferred services like streaming video. Talk about picking winners and losers on the 'Net; this approach basically guarantees that Internet users will go with the ISP's preferred service, making it difficult for independent services to compete.

Or take Canada, where just about every major ISP in the country has admitted to regulators that it uses DPI gear to throttle traffic, often singling out P2P protocols. Bell Canada's system throttles P2P for nearly half the day, and it applies the same limits to those who buy and resell its wholesale service.

For the reasons that Free Press and many others have outlined, these seem like bad outcomes... but neither Canada nor Australia has suffered some kind of Internet apocalypse. On the other hand, they are definitely not hubs of Internet innovation.

Teltra's Bigpond is teh suxxor...

ARL (Moderator) – March 23, 2009 12:10AM Reply Quote

"In effect, this could be interpreted by some as a government sanctioned hate list."


Betty Peters, 78, a retired nurse educator from Melbourne whose pro-euthanasia YouTube videos were included on the blacklist, said she was "outraged" at the Government's big brother attitude to Australian senior citizens.

"We do not need a 40-year-old senator like [Communications Minister] Stephen Conroy deciding for us what is good and bad. I am appalled that our free country has come to this," said Peters, who does volunteer work for euthanasia organisation Exit International.



The list was obtained by Wikileaks from internet filtering software that parents can opt to install on their computers. ACMA provides its list of prohibited sites to these software developers for inclusion in their products.

1. I didn't realise 78-year-old pro-euthanasia campaigners were rank in the same category as child pornography...

2. I didn't realise the Govt was going so far as to effectively make every adult use netnanny to get on the web.

I don't need net-nanny!

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/23/2009 12:12AM by Tony Leggett.

John Willoughby – March 23, 2009 12:47AM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Silly Tony, you don't know what you want. Let your Benevolent, Omniscient Government take these decisions that are causing you so much stress away.

tliet – March 23, 2009 03:18AM Reply Quote
Yes, this is a fine example where big government = bad.

ARL (Moderator) – April 03, 2009 05:17AM Reply Quote

While there are some grey areas, I mostly have no pity for most of them. If you like your job, don't gripe about it in extremely open forums like facebook using your real name...

ARL (Moderator) – May 03, 2009 04:39AM Reply Quote
14 y.o. posts nude photos of herself on myspace - may be forced to register as a "sex-offender"


The sex offender law calls for, among other things, restrictions on how close such felons can come to schools.

I tell you what, if you hate going to school it's a great way to not have to...

tliet – May 07, 2009 09:53AM Reply Quote

My internet provider (XS4ALL) funded the making of this film about privacy, to turn on the English subtitles click the left right button at the bottom.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/07/2009 10:00AM by tliet.

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