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bahamut's Avatar Picture bahamut – November 15, 2008 09:46AM Reply Quote
a thread about our spawn.

Mokers (Moderator) – December 05, 2017 12:52AM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
she seems to be especially vindictive. that is crazy.

El Jeffe – January 02, 2018 12:11PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
El Jeffe
So far we are blessed with the Kettering University experience for DS2 (Dear Son #2).
so, again, it's 11 weeks of class; then 11 weeks of WORK (aka co-op)
The transformation has been amazing. What could be observed as your typical xbox/sleep in, sleep WAY in teenage boy, has now joined numerous clubs, been racing, fabbed carbon-fiber, drive hours to job/co-op interviews, (TYING HIS OWN TIE!) (re)presenting himself as a mature, responsible adult to perspective employers et al.

Has received to-date two co-op job offers. And one today was from a visit that really got him excited. FCA (formerly Chrysler). Visited the HQ and CTC (Chrysler Tech Center).
The offer includes housing, which is great. He has visit/interview with Bosch tomorrow, but FCA blew him away.

He will be more than 1/2 way thru semester before old bro heads back... AND have a paying/free housing job lined up to pay for it all. Love the idea.
Plus, I graduated from CHRYSLER HS, most of my family has worked for Chrysler (brother, brother in law, most uncles including the highest seniority employee with 61 years), roommate was flown up by Lee Iacocca and offered a job. etc. etc... Plus I drive etc 96 car of the year, Dodge Grand Caravan. hahah

He visited their wind tunnel...

Quoting/referring back to my own post...

So far Kettering paired with FCA (formerly known as Chrysler) has been the BOOT CAMP equivalent that has worked very well for my son to both keep his focus, and change-up his environments every three months. From just weeks after his high school graduation, he has lived on his own, moving back and forth between school/work; dorm/apartments, job and study. Rarely HOME or even with any time OFF, it's really prepared him well for being responsible for his own day, year, life so far.

This came out today and I find it also reassuring.

The college which produces the fourth-highest share of inventors in the data set is little-known Kettering University in Flint, Michigan—edging out brand-name institutions like Stanford and Carnegie Mellon.

Given that his grades in HS likely did not reflect his capacity to learn and strive, and Kettering took him whereas the other schools in that list might not have, this seems ideal. Again, we are blessed with this opportunity and pass along this information for anyone else to benefit from it.

Mokers (Moderator) – January 02, 2018 12:25PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
That is good to hear Jefe. one of the things I think is missing from our country in higher education is more relationships like you describe. While I believe a traditional four-year college makes sense for a lot of people, there are many out there where that path doesn't work. While your son might not be learning what we would technically call a trade, there is a lot to be said for giving people practical experience while they are learning all of the theory.

John Willoughby – January 02, 2018 02:13PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
My eldest is participating in a fellowship next semester. Community outreach for a certain political movement. Her cause is environmentalism, but it ties in to a lot of candidates in our area. I'm pleased by her activism, not so much that she is performing it on top of her regular school work. She is doing well at college, though, so I'm allowing her to use her judgement. They will send her a nice stipend, though, which helps.

I wish that she'd settle down for a major, though. So far she is considering... all of them.

johnny k – January 02, 2018 02:57PM Reply Quote
You have a lot to be proud of.

I didn't find my major until two years in. Either you take your time and find the right one, or pick anything quickly knowing that you're going to be wrong anyway and go back to school after some work/life experience.

Suddenly, need to find a new school/daycare for my kids. Their teacher killed her fiancé on the 31st. Fuck you, 2017!

John Willoughby – January 02, 2018 03:14PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Yowza. Sorry to hear that, johnny. Not something one expects.

El Jeffe – January 02, 2018 03:16PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
WHAT!!!??? Murdered!? That's crazy shit.

johnny k – January 03, 2018 01:22PM Reply Quote
Yeah, unreal. When my wife told me, my exact words were HOLY SHIT. She was a very patient and methodical teacher. I was waiting to drop the kids off yesterday (school is held in another parent's house) for 45 minutes, uncharacteristic of the teacher to be late. No one had heard from her. Then someone (her son I guess) emailed one of the other parents to say she was in jail, no details. My wife googled for mugshots and found an article. It doesn't feel like the complete story, but what do we really know of other people?

Still, better than the last nanny who passed out in our bed drunk at nap time. The trend points to our next caretaker being a serial killer who knows how to hide the bodies and has a master's in education. I will not complain, as this week I'm roaming between the YCMA and a cafe which both offer a few hours of childcare.

El Jeffe – January 03, 2018 07:56PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
this world. I swear. makes you re-think the common wo/man on the streets. Again, my/our next door neighbor's kid stabbed a guy to death. He used to play here, and with my sons. Sorry this happened and you were on the periphery of such an unknown underlying tragedy.

ARL (Moderator) – January 06, 2018 07:05AM Reply Quote
Been a while since I posted in here.

I... I... er..., um, sigh...

I have no words...

El Jeffe – January 06, 2018 01:58PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
hopefully things will look up, ARL

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ARL (Moderator) – January 09, 2018 06:41AM Reply Quote
I'm pretty sure, in the last few days, that my daughter has been taken interstate, despite me expressly saying I did not consent to such a move.

There's a somewhat pedantic, technical phrase for that, but the word currently eludes me...

John Willoughby – January 09, 2018 11:39AM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
I hope that you have good representation, ARL. I'm so sorry that this is happening.

ARL (Moderator) – January 30, 2018 11:00PM Reply Quote
Just had a two-hour telephone mediation session (third session in 8 months). Mentally it was brutally gruelling.

The mediator always says at the end "well, I think we reached a lot of consensus today" and my thoughts are "We did? What? Where?"

Cloudscout – January 31, 2018 12:15AM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
Are they a member of Dolt 45’s cabinet?

bahamut – May 07, 2018 07:29AM Reply Quote
The daughter is 15 and acting like a 15-year-old. Her grades are so so (a couple of As, majority Bs, C in Geometry… and she is well aware that this year is easier than next year will be) and her friends … Yesterday one of her friends told us (!) that while they were hanging out yesterday, her friend pulled a fire alarm on a street. Friend said she didn't think the fire trucks would come, but they did, as did the police. This leads to all sorts of quandries—do we tell friends parents (of course she said not to), etc.

And so it begins, do we escalate and risk turning a child who is somewhat of a slacker and doesn't apologize into an impossible rebel (for comparison's sake, her cousin attempted suicide twice in freshman year of high school and is an even more unpleasant, self-absorbed person, utterly unable to deal with adults).? Or what?

Or is this why we had two kids?

Cloudscout – May 07, 2018 09:57AM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
On my way in to work this morning, I saw two boys (maybe 10.. 11?) fighting at their bus stop. To me it really appeared as if one boy was bullying the other since, by the time I had reached them, one of them was sitting down with his arms over his head, cowering. I honked, backed up, rolled down the window and asked, "is there a problem here?" The standing boy was holding a large stick in his hand at this point. He looked at me and said, "No. We're just playing!" I asked, "are you sure?" He said, "Yes. We're fine." I looked at the other boy and asked again, "are YOU sure?" He replied, "yes."

I rolled the window up and drove on... watching in the rear-view mirror to see the standing kid sit down next to the other boy. I'm hoping things really were fine.

John Willoughby – May 07, 2018 02:13PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Or is this why we had two kids?

"The heir and a spare."

Sigh. Sorry, Baha, that's a tough one. I would probably take the easy way out and not call the parents, to try to keep my rebellious daughter from thinking that she can't trust me with the realities of her life. If the other kid had done something more directly dangerous to people, animals, or property I would probably have to call the parents. While I understand that this undoubtedly cost your municipality money in time and unit unavailability, I'd think silence the lesser of two evils.

I would have a talk with my daughter about responsibility, and the danger in being associated with wrong behavior, even by just being complicit.

My youngest had a very defiant, rebellious pre-teen period. She's settled down since then, rationality and self-interest somewhat lessening her urge to rage. Somewhat.

El Jeffe – May 07, 2018 04:11PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Parenting is hard. I can't pretend to have answers. Hope it all gets better. I feel that after about 14 or maybe even tad earlier, there is only so much you can do. Lead by example, reinforce/suggest good things and play to their passions. I do try to strongly suggest the dissolution of draining friends/relationships.

Mokers (Moderator) – May 07, 2018 10:22PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
We flew to Hawaii (Kauai) and even though they are only 7 months older than their last trip they did so much better on the plane. Yes we had them watching their tablets the whole time, but having some sanity on the plane is so helpful. They shared a bed for the first time since they were out of cribs and that inviting well too! Once they learn how to poop I'll be home free.

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