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bahamut's Avatar Picture bahamut – November 15, 2008 09:46AM Reply Quote
a thread about our spawn.

Alan Lehman – February 06, 2010 01:23AM Reply Quote
Heh. You've got a climber.

Is the floor of the crib all the way down? If not, lower the floor all the way. If she's coming over the edge and the crib floor is already all the way down, it's time to think about transitioning her to a kid bed. Also time to really start kid proofing the room and the rest of the house.

The real problems start when she starts climbing over high things precisely because they are high and not just because she wants out. Kids that age haven't learned fear of heights. It might take a few falls to develop. My daughter was climbing step stools and small ladders within days of learning to walk and she was always damn proud when she got to the top.

Now would be a good time to start strapping your shelves too.

John Willoughby – February 06, 2010 11:23AM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Alan Lehman
My daughter was climbing step stools and small ladders within days of learning to walk and she was always damn proud when she got to the top.

It's like having a tiny Sir Edmund Hillary around the house for a few weeks, isn't it? So cute, and so scary. We have photos of our youngest sleeping atop various pieces of furniture that one would swear were inaccessible to her. (On a tangentially related note, our oldest fell asleep while standing up with her head leaning on an ottoman once. She stayed up for about 15 minutes before slowly sliding to the side and collapsing.)

John Willoughby – February 06, 2010 11:53AM Reply Quote
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Dr Phred (Moderator) – February 06, 2010 01:36PM Reply Quote
owned by the mothership.
Very cute climber/sleeper.

We adopted sleep sharing when we had our first one. Greatly improved our sleep times and taught the kid to sleep at night.

Alan Lehman – February 06, 2010 09:46PM Reply Quote
Those are classics John.

This is the best I can come up with...

This was two weeks after she started walking...

YDD – February 07, 2010 03:09PM Reply Quote
The crib mattress is as low as it can go. Unfortunately, there's a certain lack of room for a small bed. Most of the rest of her room is occupied by a queen bed (currently used to store her clothes). That is so high it would be little better than falling out of the crib. Are children's beds similar in size to a crib? As for child-proofing the rest of the place... it's barely safe for adults. Throwing things out is a drawn out process for SWMBO :-(

Alan Lehman – February 07, 2010 10:07PM Reply Quote
I assume you can find kids beds in about any reasonable kid size.

We put her in a queen with bed rails that we shoved into a corner so it only needed rails on one side and the bottom. The top of the mattress comes to just above my knee. Now she's six and the side guard is still there. At least we ditched the bottom guard a while back.

Jeff Cooper – February 08, 2010 10:26AM Reply Quote
Great pictures, Alan and John.

John Willoughby – February 08, 2010 11:53AM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Our kids, 6 and 10, sleep together in a queen size bed. It wasn't our plan, we just can't make them sleep apart. I'm worried that they are conditioning themselves to require a bedmate to sleep, which doesn't bode well for their college years.

El Jeffe – February 08, 2010 05:29PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Au contraire, imo.

John Willoughby – February 08, 2010 09:29PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Doesn't bode well for ME.

El Jeffe – February 08, 2010 10:09PM Reply Quote
What a journey.

Alan Lehman – February 09, 2010 01:49AM Reply Quote
A same sex bed mate for better or worse.

ARL (Moderator) – February 09, 2010 08:05PM Reply Quote
Cant get knocked up at least!

ARL (Moderator) – April 15, 2010 05:10AM Reply Quote
OK - my partner, the week before last, went to a five day yoga/meditation retreat.

We had my parents look after Keira (now nearly 18 months old) for 3 days and my partner's mother look after Keira for the other two. For the three days we (me & my parents) had Keira she was an absolute angel. She was the sweetest, most adorable, best-behaved child I've seen in a long time (with a few brief exceptions of course). She was apparently well-behaved at I's mothers house too.

However, a day or two after this (and my parents leaving) Keira has become progressively worse & worse behave to the point that for the last 4 or 5 days she has just HOWLED AND SHRIEKED from dawn to dusk unless she is physically held and cuddled by my partner (she prefers to lie on her chest). Putting the wiggles on might get a 1-30 minute respite depending on mood (if my partner is nearby).

Keira also had to be weaned before this yoga retreat (my partner has a thyroid disorder and the specialist said to stop breastfeeding - since then she's now said it's "probably ok" - I could kill her). However the complete weaning had happened at least a week or two before this retreat. Keira seems to have regressed though and is having MAJOR separation anxiety issues and possibly post-weaning issues as a result too.

When Keira is in the house - from 5-6am in the morning 'til approx 8pm at night - there may as well be a chainsaw or a jackhammer blazing away.

I'm at my wits end. I'm drinking (more).

Has anyone else been through anything like this? Any tips/suggestions/thoughts?

Should I drug the child or just myself???

NOT feeling the warm fuzzies,


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/15/2010 05:12AM by Tony Leggett.

John Willoughby – April 15, 2010 11:08AM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
My oldest forged an enormously strong bond with her mother at a very early age. Even in her infancy, I was "not-the-Mama," and unsuitable for any of her needs. She cried almost continuously when her mother was out of the house. The only thing that seemed to help was walking back and forth with her screaming on my shoulder until she fell asleep. This would, literally, take hours. Then try to transfer her to a couch. Which had a 50% chance of waking her. Which would send me back to step 1. I did start to drink heavily on my wife's choir nights. It was a long and painful period. It did eventually get better, but this daughter has always been very dependent on her Mom. Her sister, on the other hand, is disturbingly independent.

I know that Keira is older than my daughter was at this point. I don't know that wheelchair trips are even possible, let alone helpful. It seems significant that she doesn't go into rage mode at grandparents' houses and can sometimes be mollified by an interesting show. I think that it may be just boredom, or a fallback routine when confronted with default surroundings. Perhaps a change of venue? Going to a park or a mall, giving her something outside of herself to focus on? I know that this would be a pain, especially at night, but if you're just listening to screaming anyway...

El Jeffe – April 15, 2010 04:32PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
these topics come up often after apropos CBS Modern Family eps.
All kids are different. Some subtly so. Others not so subtle.
I personally have to resign myself to admitting that my advice would not necessarily offer any better outcome than any other advice.
Just hang in there and don't put her alone on a plane to Russia.

ARL (Moderator) – April 16, 2010 12:04AM Reply Quote
It's actually reassuring to hear someone else admit they've used booze to cope with the "challenging moments" - I'd been feeling kinda lousy about my poor coping skills but you can only feel frustrated and utterly useless for so long before something gives.

John Willoughby – April 16, 2010 12:10AM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
I don't even drink, really, but the hours of screaming (with the subliminal message of "You're a failure as a parent!") inspired me. I think I was drinking vodka screwdrivers then, but it might have been gin.

El Jeffe – April 16, 2010 10:21AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Once you realize that parents of such folks like Ted Bundy did not in fact create that monster, he did it himself, then you'll realize that much earlier on you don't have a lot of control. It's not YOU.
(Talking ONLY to Tony .. ha ha .. does not exempt you other ne'erdowells)

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