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I guess this is what happens if you reinvent yourself as a company. Remondpie.com is a site I visit when I want to jailbreak a new iOS device. So, they have this advertisement for some poster some kid made with Apple's 'history'. http://www.redmondpie.com/grab-the-insanely-great-history-of-apple-poster-before-its-sold-out-available-for-limited-time-only/

Uh... 1983?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/2011 08:03PM by tliet.

I had to look closely to be sure it wasn't just a joke or intentional trolling.

The actual site they link to with the poster seems correct although incomplete. It doesn't imply that Apple started in 1983, they merely start their timeline at that point for some weird reason.

I guess the kids at Redmondpie have no clue.

This is something I've noticed before. In the mid 2000s kids would totally be surprised if you told them Apple also made computers (they only knew the iPod). These days, with the Samsung/Apple lawsuits going on and Samsung being immensely popular under the schoolkids, they have no clue Apple existed before 2000.

It's really weird to be fifty, and having written software on cards back in the seventies and read the output on a 40-character LED display. I was explaining to a co-worker the joys of saving one's programs to audio tape in a Radio Shack tape recorder, the wonder that was the 5.25" floppy drive, the transcendent joy of having TWO drives, so that one didn't need to do the disk-swap dance every freaking couple of minutes.

I feel like I am imparting a vision of what it was like at the beginning of the computer era. I think that what I am really doing is boring a 25-year-old to death.

Of course, the guys who were REALLY around at the beginning of the computer would consider me a callow newcomer to the field. "Pencil cards? You had it easy. We flipped mechanical switches to program our computers, and we LIKED it that way!"

This is probably too new to be properly retro, but the latest VMWare Fusion now allows you to run Mac OS X Leopard and Snow Leopard CLIENT versions under Lion. So if you really need a PPC app for something, you can make it work.

I am glad they did this, Apple should retro-actively re-license the client versions so software devs can test and folks can run older software. The released a statement though that this is against their licensing policy but lets see if they actually act on it.

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John Willoughby
This is probably too new to be properly retro, but the latest VMWare Fusion now allows you to run Mac OS X Leopard and Snow Leopard CLIENT versions under Lion. So if you really need a PPC app for something, you can make it work.

This is terrific, and eases some of my angst over the forced march into Lion. A virtualization of Leopard? I'll keep Apple Works going yet, by gum!

Never mind. VMWare to undo "mistake."

I wonder if VMware is going to retroactively *break* existing installs? If not, all this backpedalling will do is force the pre-installed image into torrents as a starting point for everyone else to do updates from. This is one of those cat-bag, genie-lamp things, IMO.

Well, if you bought it through the Mac App Store, you will have to be very cautious about updating your apps going forward. I thought about rushing home to try and buy 4.1 so that I would have a Rosetta escape hatch, but how long will 4.1 be robust as the system evolves going forward? I think we already discussed ways to install the client version on VMWare and Fusion. My hope is that, rather than an unplanned consequence to changes in the licensing code, this is a change that Apple has condoned and that VMWare just pushed prematurely, before a date that Apple had set for Fusion and VMWare. This is purely made up, but I hope it to be true.

What I mean is that the check is currently done at install time, right? That means that until the update, you can create VMware images that can be shared. If the new/reinstated check is still at install time, you'll see the virgin install image all over the net. If Fusion changes to check OS versions at runtime, that could get interesting.

AFA why this is the case now, my money is on VMware taking a chance and getting slapped. We all know Apple has no love of enabling older OSes.

Yeah, I got that. But future app updates might lock out client VM's.

The lack of Rosetta support is slowing Lion uptake. It might be a cheap way to allow Rosetta compatibility without having to pay any more licensing fees and still guarantee that usage will die out over time. Assuming that they don't sell any more pre-Lion OS CD's.

(By the way, this is definitely an "I wish" thing rather than an "I think" thing. If that wasn't obvious.)

(Oh, and I meant "Parallels and VMWare" rather than "Fusion and VMWare" in my longer post above. I are a idiot.)



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No Rosetta plus broken search (at least for me) plus weird ass overall interface sketchiness means I have forked OS's. The Air has 10.6. The Mac Pro has 10.5.

Here's an interesting glimpse into the past:

http://cdman.com/pdf/ecdfact.pdf

Here's a whole lot of glimpses.

hmm, every link on that page is dead?

The user manual links work.

Sorry, I didn't realize that the service manual links are dead.

Why don't browsers "look ahead" and highlight dead links in some manner?

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Why don't browsers "look ahead" and highlight dead links in some manner?

That's called a search engine...