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Cloudscout's Avatar Picture Cloudscout – December 23, 2007 08:49AM Reply Quote
I know I'm not the only one here to dabble in old toys and technology. What retro entertainment do other people enjoy?

Commodore
Atari
Coleco
Intellivison
Pong
Merlin
Simon
Betamax
LaserDisc
CD-i
8 Track
Windows XP
Etc.

Cloudscout – March 30, 2011 10:02AM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Wow.

UPS just dropped off the Commodore PC10-III.

It is brand new. It doesn't have the original box but it does have the original styrofoam. It doesn't look like it was ever even plugged in.

Alan Lehman – March 30, 2011 10:16AM Reply Quote
I gave away my Duo 230, recycled my IIsi, 8500/225, 7300 and G4 450. I still have a dual G4/180 card around here somewhere. Did those count as vintage?

Cloudscout – March 30, 2011 11:02AM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
In my book, anything with an ADB port qualifies as vintage... although the Blue & White is pushing it.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – March 30, 2011 02:49PM Reply Quote
In other words beige = vintage?

Cloudscout – March 30, 2011 04:53PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Black, too, if you consider the Macintosh TV.

tliet – March 31, 2011 07:20PM Reply Quote
Yellow would be the more vintage colour.

Jeff Cooper – April 01, 2011 05:09AM Reply Quote
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John Willoughby
The only vintage machine I still have is my 20th Anniversary Mac, with G3 accelerator. I wonder if it still boots up...

I had one of those. Sold it in 2004 or so. Not only was it slow (even with the G3 card) , but its LCD dimmed faster than any other LCD I've ever had. Beautiful design, though.

John Willoughby – May 09, 2011 07:13AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – May 09, 2011 02:57PM Reply Quote
I think they'll do well actually...

Cloudscout – May 10, 2011 05:29AM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
There's some backlash in the vintage computing world from people who are upset about them "polluting" the #c64 hashtag on Twitter.

El Jeffe – September 13, 2011 01:12PM Reply Quote
What a journey.

Cloudscout – September 19, 2011 12:33PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
If you were a dialup BBS user back in the old days, I highly recommend this book:

Commodork: Sordid Tales from a BBS Junkie.

Madaracs – October 16, 2011 11:26AM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
Help?

I did a ClosedApple+CTRL+Reset on my Apple //e and I don't get KERNEL OK. I get a RAM address:

*RAM 00001000

I assume this means there is something wrong with the computer's RAM?

I'm able to load some games but they do not play, reset or partially load.

Also, I'm typing this on a lampshade mac running OSX 10.2.8. <--this could be my problem, no?

:-)

If anyone knows anything about older Apple computers I'd appreciate the help.



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John Willoughby – October 16, 2011 11:56AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Almost all of what I once knew of Apple ][ lore has faded with the years. I only revisit Apple's early days in emulators now. Sorry.

tliet – October 16, 2011 09:09PM Reply Quote
Edit; didn't read your post correctly. You did do the self test.

I'm not too familiar with broken Apple IIs (I only broke one once, by inserting the Disk II controller incorrectly in the slot) so not sure what could be the issue. But as the chips in an Apple IIe were fairly common you should have no problem sourcing them I guess.



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Madaracs – October 17, 2011 02:27PM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
Well I isolated a couple of problems.... or at least one problem and maybe one configuration issue.

First, I discovered by switching the disk controller to another slot, I was able to make games/programs load properly. Lucky break I guess. But I also noticed some dip switches on another controller card inside the //e and I was wondering if that was what dictated which slots worked for what. Or it may be that all of the other slots have potential issues. I tried all of them and it would seem the even number slots seem to at least boot. While the odd numbered slots either don't boot at all or only drive the disk drives partially. That seems weird to me but I know nothing about Apple architecture so I can't be sure it's not normal.

The other thing is that the 80 column 64K RAM expansion card may or may not be bad. When I removed it and performed the self check again, the system reported back: SYSTEM OK. When I add it back in I get the aforementioned: *RAM 00001000 message.

Now it appears to be working good though. All the disks I attempted to load booted up and loaded with no issues. I guess there were one or two that didn't but they were hacks anyway and may not have worked in the first place. I'll try them in my //c and see if I get the same results.

This machine has an aftermarket power supply in it as well so I'm wondering if the board wasn't fried at some point.



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tliet – October 18, 2011 11:16AM Reply Quote
The 80 column and memory card may only be put in slot 3 or the dedicated slot IIRC. Disk II interface goes into slot 6. Clean the surface connector with some eraser.

But I'm sure you are aware of all this.

Madaracs – October 18, 2011 12:11PM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
Ah ha! Well that is great to know. So that explains why the Disk II interface works best in slot 6. It was in slot 7 so it would boot and then do nothing. Thanks for the confirmation on that!

The 80 column card really only fits in one slot so I can't screw that up. It has "This side toward keyboard" or something printed on it too. And since it's beveled to fit in the front I figured that one out pretty quickly.

So now I know that the only real issue I had may not even be an issue. I'll need to find someone else with the 80 column card to do a self test to see if it produces the same RAM message or says SYSTEM OK.

I did find a place that sources the RAM cards.

Cloudscout – October 18, 2011 02:27PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
I may have a spare, actually.

tliet – November 15, 2011 10:58AM Reply Quote
For those interested, I've put together a Lisa Profile disk with Lisa Office 7/7 a few years back. http://www.xs4all.nl/~tliet/Lisa_011007.zip

It can be booted with the Lisa emulator, which works quite well... http://lisaem.sunder.net/downloads/LisaEm-1.2.6.dmg

Free beer for anyone successfully porting this to the iPad ;-)

Unfortunately, my Lisa died many, many years ago. But I'll never forget the thrill of booting it up and going over all the old books and boxes of software.

A somewhat related question; does anyone remember the Self Running demo that used to exist for Microsoft Works 1.0? I remember seeing this demo while at the local Apple dealer back in '85 and was absolutely stunned. I was used to Atari 400/800 XLs and just got introduced to the Apple II. I'm curious if anyone knows about this and is even able to put it online.

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