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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 07, 2007 08:51PM Reply Quote
Well, why not? this is a community, after all.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – January 18, 2012 05:10PM Reply Quote
Thanks P!

It's a shame there's no simple setting to get rid of the thing using the wordpress dashboard.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – January 18, 2012 05:17PM Reply Quote
DPBD!

On another note has anyone ever setup a website and then had spammers spoof a pile of fake email addresses from that website (ie xzycze@thedomainnameisetup.com or fredblogs@thedomainnameisetup.com) so that all emails from that website are blocked by hotmail, gmail etc?

Hotmail returns it citing a 550 SC-001 error and "Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network is on our block list. You can also refer your provider to http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#errors"

How the hell do you get legitimate email addresses off the block list?

ddt – January 18, 2012 06:34PM Reply Quote
No helpful answer, Tony (sorry), but you might want to check out http://argoproject.org/ for some cool WP-based tools. And congrats on your new set of media clips! Popular bloke, you.

ddt

tliet – January 18, 2012 07:00PM Reply Quote
Tony, did e-mail from the site work before (has the behaviour changed)? Or was it always not working? Could be an old listing or a blanket block which also blocks the IP address which hosts your site.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – January 18, 2012 08:51PM Reply Quote
No, it did work once and now it's being blocked. Then spammers harvested email addresses listed on the site and spoofed a bazillion emails.

Has it seriously gotten so bad that you can't publicly list an email address?

tliet – January 19, 2012 07:10AM Reply Quote

tomierna (Admin) – January 19, 2012 11:16AM Reply Quote
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Tony, that's called a Joe Job.

Not much can be done, except adding SPF records to your DNS for the domain's mail server.

This allows the receiving mail servers to see that mail from your domain is coming from mail servers associated with sending mail for that domain.

johnny k – January 19, 2012 02:20PM Reply Quote
A lot of mail servers require the SPF records now to avoid getting your mail dropped as spam. Surprised you could get away with it up to this point. Actually, I'm surprised this wasn't put there much sooner. I pranked an acquaintance in college by sending emails from a female he had an interest in. The Internet was new; I guess we all trusted it then.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – January 19, 2012 03:35PM Reply Quote
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tomierna
Tony, that's called a Joe Job.

Not much can be done, except adding SPF records to your DNS for the domain's mail server.

This allows the receiving mail servers to see that mail from your domain is coming from mail servers associated with sending mail for that domain.

OK, how do you add SPF records to a DNS.

Also, the web/email host says it recommends you use your own ISP settings for sending mail.

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In most cases, clients use mail.MyDomain.com as the outgoing mail server setting. You will need to change this to your Internet Service Provider’s mail server, for example: mail.MyInternetProvider.com. If you’re unsure what this setting is, please contact your Internet provider and ask for your SMTP server name.

tomierna (Admin) – January 19, 2012 04:47PM Reply Quote
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There are SPF record creators out there, and whoever handles this domain's dns should be able to add it once you've indicated what you need it to say.

I'm not sure why the hosting company would want you to not use your mail service. I would rather my users use my service than their ISP service for outbound.

Alan Lehman – January 19, 2012 06:46PM Reply Quote
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johnny k
A lot of mail servers require the SPF records now to avoid getting your mail dropped as spam. Surprised you could get away with it up to this point. Actually, I'm surprised this wasn't put there much sooner. I pranked an acquaintance in college by sending emails from a female he had an interest in. The Internet was new; I guess we all trusted it then.

I recall using Netscape (or some other now defunct browser) to send a few emails to the office staff from god@heaven.org with instructions. Not long after, the sysadmin shut that functionality down department wide.

johnny k – January 19, 2012 07:15PM Reply Quote
Yep, I was using Netscape for that, too.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – January 19, 2012 07:29PM Reply Quote
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tomierna
There are SPF record creators out there, and whoever handles this domain's dns should be able to add it once you've indicated what you need it to say.

I'm not sure why the hosting company would want you to not use your mail service. I would rather my users use my service than their ISP service for outbound.

Hi Tom,

I've turned on spam assassin which incorporates SPF but it wasn't on until yesterday. I just tell them to add ranges of IP addresses, right?

I've NEVER EVER been able to get outbound email to work on servers other than my own ISP.

[edit] I tell a lie. They're working on Tom's servers fine. Hmmm... Why wont the work with this other mob?



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Tony Leggett (Moderator) – January 19, 2012 07:47PM Reply Quote
DPBD!

< noob >

Ah, I've done some fiddling round and figured out how to do it (Mail had a hidden preference box for SSL and all that egg-head stuff...)

< / noob >



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tomierna (Admin) – January 20, 2012 04:51AM Reply Quote
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Well, if that hosting provider is going to build the SPF for you, they should know what their mail servers' IP addresses are. If there are other machines that are allowed to relay mail for that domain, those IP addresses need to be added to the SPF record. Once the SPF record has been generated, whoever manages your DNS server for that domain would have to add it. The DNS admin may be the hosting provider, it may be the registrar, or it may be a third party - that all depends on the choices you made setting the domain up.

Turning on Spam Assassin is only going to affect your inbound mail, filtering mail to your domain through SA, and using SA's checks against SPF to rank mail coming in.

As I understand your problem, it's with spammers spoofing nonexistent addresses on your domain as the From or Reply-To, and sending spam from random open relays. Adding the mail servers of record to the SPF record on your domain's DNS is the best way to fix this. Then, once the SPF record has been added/fixed, you can usually appeal being on black/grey lists that you may have gotten onto due to the joe job.

El Jeffe – January 20, 2012 12:31PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
SPF? I need about a 30.

El Jeffe – January 21, 2012 01:24PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Finally just found some time, and thought my luck was good, and did it.
I swapped in the new core2duo for the old coreduo in my (wife's) mac mini. So, now both our minis are 2Ghz c2d.
I have not done the Lion upgrade, yet.

I only broke TWO things, too! Woohoo!
The front LED light I disconnected, and when I went to pull the motherboard out/forward/out, it was in the way. So, I popped it off it's little stand, but the plastic mushroom-shaped rivets popped and broke. But, it will stay there without falling out by itself. I could have glued it.

I found the CPU heatsink spring-loaded hold-down thingies to be a pain. Not sure the preferred way to get those out. They are arrow-shaped on the graspy end. One of the four's arrows were no longer pliable nor viable. So, the heatsink is held on with three of those things. Hopefully that will suffice.

I scraped the old thermal paste off, and put some new stuff on it from Frys. I dunno if it's sufficient. I have never done this.
But, put it all back together and it all works.

Will tackle Lion next.



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This is interesting.

The 2006 Mac Mini models had Core Solo or Core Duo CPUs.

The 2007 Mac Mini models had Core 2 Duo CPUs.

Other than the CPU itself, the machines were physically identical. In theory, replacing the Core Solo or Core Duo CPU with a Core 2 Duo should make them completely identical... but it doesn't.

The 2006 model is identified as "macmini1,1" aka "Mac-F4208EC8".
The 2007 model is identified as "macmini2,1" aka "Mac-F4208EAA".

This identifier makes the two systems behave very differently.

The most obvious difference is that the latter model is fully supported by Lion, but even before Lion was released, there was an even more significant difference...

The 2006 model was limited to 2GB RAM. The 2007 model could take 4GB of RAM although only 3.18GB was usable by the OS because of chipset limitations. If you tried installing 4GB of RAM in the 2006 model, it wouldn't even boot.

Now, a community of tinkerers have been trying to figure out how to make a 2006 model think it's a 2007 model by modifying firmware updates, etc. So far they have been able to get the 2006 models to work with 4GB RAM (again, only 3GB usable). They still haven't fully solved the puzzle, though. While the updated systems support the higher RAM limit and report themselves as "macmini2,1" they still have the "Mac-F4208EC8" identifier showing up which means Lion still doesn't work without the install hacks.

They're still working on it, though. The forum thread is 7 pages long so far and is really interesting:

http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,874.0.html

bahamut – January 22, 2012 02:29AM Reply Quote
If you are still looking for a bag, JW, Bill Amberg has a sale for a couple of days.

This one might work, I don't know the measurements. http://www.billamberg.com/shop/travel-bags/travel-satchel1

I haven't seen this bag, but I am sure it's gorgeous and of impeccable quality. I've bought way too much stuff from them before.

Imagine the nicest sports car seat leather you can, then imagine bags made of it.

Pricey but it will last you for ever.

El Jeffe – January 22, 2012 03:42AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
MANPURSE! LOL j/k

El Jeffe – January 22, 2012 05:03AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
So far so good. Been running the Mac Mini on new CPU all night. No observable issues.

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