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Simon's Avatar Picture Simon – December 19, 2007 11:49PM Reply Quote
Yet Another Transplant Thread (credit to Brian Miller for the original) (and Robert Taylor for the 2nd edition)

So, when do you expect to see the next 21-slot G5 subnotebook with built-in antigravity? Or do you have other things to complain about regarding the Mac rum0rz press?


Jeff Cooper – April 24, 2008 04:01AM Reply Quote

tliet – May 10, 2008 09:24AM Reply Quote
So, connecting imaginary dots here, but is there anyone who thinks that Apple could pull off a 'hundred dollar laptop' based on OS X?

Seeing that the market for super cheap super small laptops is getting white hot in the coming future, having an operating system (and its applications!) that runs on anything you port the kernel to is a huge advantage.

PowerPC or no PowerPC, processor architecture with Mac OS X is really not relevant. Of course it makes sense to have Intel x86 chips in a line of computers that is targeted at your existing user base. But for the 3 billion people that don't have access to a computer, a 2 Ghz PowerPC chip running on 10 watts goes a long way when you have very little power available. Since most software is still fat binary, Apple could just roll out a line of PowerPC computers for specific markets and have 90% of Mac software running on it.

Apple is having a major advantage over Microsoft here, with 'their' platform strategy still either firmly stuck on x86, or if you choose to trash your code base a completely different 'CE platform'.

I'd say Apple is ready to do an end run around Microsoft, in 5 years time they'll own most of the operating system market. After a while the software will get decoupled from the hardware.

Cloudscout – May 23, 2008 06:49PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!

El Jeffe – May 24, 2008 01:48AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
no vacation during that period is unforgivable.

Cloudscout – May 27, 2008 12:33PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
What if Apple were to double their marketshare overnight?

By overnight, I mean from one quarter to the next. They've been seriously outpacing everybody else for a while now. The press has been talking them up right-and-left. Sure, some of their analysis seems a bit contrived (Apple has over 50% of market for $1000+ computers) but what if the next round of quarterly results come out and Apple has suddenly taken 20% or more of the home users? The presumed impossibility of such a leap is fading.

What would happen to Microsoft in such a scenario? Would they be forced to restructure to satisfy shareholders? I'm only saying this because of Office. I think I remember reading that most Mac users use Microsoft Office... and that most Mac users pay for the software they use. But unlike Windows customers who usually get Office as a bundle with their PC, Mac users buy Office at retail. This means that they pay more. Could the day come when Microsoft earns more from Office for Mac than Office for Windows? Again, this is just looking at the non-business customers.

stan adams – May 27, 2008 01:37PM Reply Quote
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Cloudscout
...but what if the next round of quarterly results come out and Apple has suddenly taken 20% or more of the home users? ...
What would happen to Microsoft in such a scenario? Would they be forced to restructure to satisfy shareholders? I'm only saying this because of Office. I think I remember reading that most Mac users use Microsoft Office... and that most Mac users pay for the software they use. But unlike Windows customers who usually get Office as a bundle with their PC, Mac users buy Office at retail. This means that they pay more. Could the day come when Microsoft earns more from Office for Mac than Office for Windows? Again, this is just looking at the non-business customers.

Eh, not likely. I mean having seen just the shear volume of people/places that ought to know better going ahead and ordering full retail versions of Office for Windows from CDW or OfficeMax or who ever I just don't see how Mac users are ever going to be more than tinkle in the ocean.

Dr Phred (Moderator) – May 27, 2008 02:16PM Reply Quote
owned by the mothership.
OEM office is our best seller (even though that's still office 2004) followed by the home and student version. The full retail version is a distant third.

Madaracs – May 28, 2008 05:16AM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
My mom switched (back) to the mac.

tliet – May 28, 2008 12:56PM Reply Quote
Well, at least Microsoft is taking notice of Apple's newly found Mac love fest; the highest sales numbers in 19 years with Office 2008 flying off the shelves at around 3 times as fast as the predecessor.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Microsoft Office for Mac is one of the most profitable products within the whole company. Fairly small development team, ditto for marketing.

El Jeffe – May 30, 2008 01:55AM Reply Quote
What a journey.

rino – May 30, 2008 05:11AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
I'm thinking it's NOT a .Mac name change/rebrand but instead an opening up of what services can sync [coughcoughexchangecough] considering the forthcoming harmony with Exchange, and new Google syncing.

I really want Apple to define some of their software lines better ... they put this stuff out there with incredible potential to at the very least integrate and at best redefine but it languishes. Then again, I don't run a 166 billion dollar company or any projects at one.

Cloudscout – May 30, 2008 10:39AM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
I think it's pretty obvious that Steve Ballmer isn't going to last much longer at Microsoft. Their stock is down 42% in the 8 years since he took over. But where would they go?

I know this is on the antigravity sub-notebook scale here but what if this whole Yahoo thing actually happens and the board decides to replace Ballmer with Jerry Yang in the process?

John Willoughby – May 30, 2008 10:42AM Reply Quote
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Wow. I can't believe that Yang could step from Yahoo up to MS. Maybe MS's internet stuff, but not the whole shebang.

peter – May 30, 2008 11:18AM Reply Quote
Jerry Yang?!? CS, I know it's Friday, but you shouldn't start drinking so early. How about Fake Steve Jobs for CEO of Microsoft? I think that would be pretty funny.

Cloudscout – May 30, 2008 12:54PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
I'm not saying he'd be good at the job. I'm just wondering what it would do to Microsoft's image. What if they replaced Ballmer with someone that people sort of like?

(like I said, this is an antigravity sub-notebook type of thing)

El Jeffe – May 30, 2008 02:14PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
you think ballmer is/was better for MS?

Cloudscout – May 30, 2008 02:41PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
Ballmer has driven the company into the ground. It would be hard to find anyone who would do worse.

El Jeffe – May 30, 2008 03:12PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
i agree totally. for the life of me I've always thought he must have PHOTOS of GATES somewhere.

peter – May 30, 2008 03:54PM Reply Quote
Your asking me choose between Ballmer and Yang? Well I know which one I'd rather have as a friend. Seriously, running a gigantic corporation (well) takes an uncommon set of skills, experience, and personality traits (together called leadership), and I don't see Jerry having those chops. I want to Microsoft to succeed because of all the good he Gates Foundation does in the world, just not as a monopoly, so I'd like to see them run competently.

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