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tliet's Avatar Picture tliet – March 21, 2008 05:20AM Reply Quote
The ubiquitous video architecture, discuss it here.

tliet – March 26, 2008 05:06AM Reply Quote
As soon as the world finds out that stuff encoded in h.264 will just keep on playing, if only Microsoft came around and embedded an h.264 decoder in Windows or Silverlight, people will start pressuring Microsoft. More here.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/2008 05:06AM by tliet.

El Jeffe – March 26, 2008 05:31AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
money can motivate, but also belligerence at what they see in Apple now or building up for future domination could also be driving it.

What a journey.

ddt – March 26, 2008 05:56AM Reply Quote
or maybe it could be (not hinting, just guessing) that MS does do a good job in evangelizing to the C-level and then sending in phalanxes of developer support people to install, teach dev tools and answer questions? imagine apple doing that.


Curtis – March 26, 2008 06:39AM Reply Quote
Future compatibility?

It's ok, all those channels master stuff in QuickTime or AVID formats.... re-compression is hardly the end of the world...

rino – March 26, 2008 07:21AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
or maybe it could be (not hinting, just guessing) that MS does do a good job in evangelizing to the C-level and then sending in phalanxes of developer support people to install, teach dev tools and answer questions? imagine apple doing that.


Yes. That's my point -- it's a form of payola too in some cases.

Right, re-encode. Correct. That costs money!

bahamut – March 27, 2008 03:38PM Reply Quote
Realplayer... bwa ha ha ha.

tliet – May 23, 2008 08:38PM Reply Quote
Judging from the Piratebay.org h.264 / MPEG4 is winning the ultimate format war. I'd say that Apple was right in supporting standards based formats, would these kind of films play on Apple hardware devices? (iPhone/iPod Touch/AppleTV?

Mokers (Moderator) – May 23, 2008 11:06PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
x264 is the open-source AVC decoder, so I would imagine they would. The higher bitrate items might need to be resized to fit on the portable devices.

morganti – May 28, 2008 06:22AM Reply Quote
There's definitely some "trickyness" to playing that type of content on the AppleTV/Ipod/Iphone. There are a TON of "options" under x264. Many of them dont work right with ATV/IPOD/IPHONE. Some of that is that they are very processor intensive (if there's one thing that h264 can claim it's that it uses all the horsepower you can throw at it). Some of that is simply "implementation". I would think most "knowledgeable" movie rippers would take that into account and try to be pretty "compatible" (ala axxo DivX standalone compatibility).

Morg "Suffering through a 10 hour encode of 'There will be blood'" anti

tliet – February 05, 2010 09:03PM Reply Quote
Hmm, interesting. Buying a license for Final Cut Pro doesn't allow you to distribute video in h.264: http://bemasc.net/wordpress/2010/02/02/no-you-cant-do-that-with-h264/

ARL (Moderator) – February 06, 2010 01:19PM Reply Quote
I whinge therefore I am!
Is this the dastardly work of the RIAA or MPAA?

tomierna (Admin) – February 06, 2010 05:38PM Reply Quote
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It's the dastardly work of the mpeg rights holder groups. They have just announced that usage rights are free until 2013.

I'm no lawyer, but MP3 suffers from the same potential problems, but the rights holder in this case has only ever charged encoder manufacturers, never decoder manufacturers or people who use the encoders.

ARL (Moderator) – February 06, 2010 05:45PM Reply Quote
I whinge therefore I am!
MPEG - that's what I meant... What on earth happens after 2013 then - back to hand-splicing film reels?

tomierna (Admin) – February 07, 2010 05:19AM Reply Quote
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I think, like MP3 you'll see the MPEG license group assert paid licenses on encoder but not on decoder manufacturers. Also like MP3, they will likely not worry about charging users of these licensed products. It ensures broad use of the technology.

Past 2013, who knows. Maybe some of the open source, non-patent-encumbered codecs will be good enough by then. You don't see MP3 going anywhere in the face of Ogg Vorbis though.

ARL (Moderator) – March 07, 2010 03:12PM Reply Quote
I whinge therefore I am!
Finally used the Snow Leopard version of QT for the first time today.

Man does it SUCK!

Is there even a QT pro option any more?

It's just totally lame and unusable. WTF Happened?

ARL (Moderator) – March 07, 2010 03:19PM Reply Quote
I whinge therefore I am!

Ah, I can install QT7 back onto Snow Leopard. Thank God.

This is like the iMovie fiasco. Why is Apple dumbing down its products?

John Willoughby – March 07, 2010 04:56PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
A lot of the old Quicktime relied on ancient 32-bit Carbon code that will not work going forward. The new QT is a lot "dumber," but it can run in true 64-bit mode. It's actually a serious problem, as a lot of Apple's fancy digital video apps rely on the old functionality in underlying API's.

ARL (Moderator) – March 07, 2010 05:47PM Reply Quote
I whinge therefore I am!
Hmmm... Food for thought.

Still, the new QT GUI is really lame. Why do I want the playback controls blocking the money shots of my pr0n?

johnny k – March 08, 2010 05:46AM Reply Quote
You can drag the playback controls to anywhere in the frame, no?

Mokers (Moderator) – March 08, 2010 09:45AM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
I still keep QuickTime Player 7 because it has many more export options available.

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