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Apple's relationship with the press, customers, and dealers

tliet's Avatar Picture tliet – March 20, 2008 05:34AM Reply Quote
Although we don't live in the Apple is beleaguered times anymore, there's still enough to be said about them...
Transplanted once again...

The Gay Blade - 05:54pm Mar 31, 2000 EST
The Blade will attempt to transplant yet another rhetorical sapling here
on the Spork boards by copping a page from the delightful Brian Miller,
writing eloquently on the superannuated boards of yesteryear:

Brian Miller - 03:07pm Sep 30, 1999 PT
The man with a plan

My recent PowerBook G3 fiasco notwithstanding, I am beginning to wonder if
Apple is planning on abandoning "small fry customers." Consider the
evidence:



1) Apple's war with the Macintosh press;
2) Apple's slashing and burning of small local dealers, who often provided
the best service "in a pinch";
3) Apple's continued horrendous customer service breaches (individual Apple
Store orders cancelled in favour of large educaction/business orders).

Pulling all this evidence together and analysing it makes me feel far more
"worried" about Apple's future than any time under Amelio. Consider, for
instance, what all of those resources spent on lawyers threatening tiny Mac
sites could do in customer service and relations.



Before we consider Apple's "invasion" into the Fortune 1000 enterprise to
be ready, we have to focus on Apple's status in its own current markets. In
my view, there's a lot of "retrenching" to do before they're ready. They
can start by ceasing their intimidation of Mac publishers, letting the damn
Mac rags publish OS 8.6 on their cover disks, and spending a bit more time,
effort, and energy on a "satisfy the customer at all costs throughout the
organisation" policy. These are all core competencies they'll need before
they can even THINK of invading the big-enterprise space.
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Cloudscout – March 09, 2011 03:22PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Nothing to see here. Move along.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/09/2011 03:23PM by Cloudscout.

Jeff Cooper – March 12, 2011 05:47PM Reply Quote
I see that Apple is taking donations for Japan disaster relief through the iTunes Store. And good for them--it provides a quick and easy way for people to make donations. But isn't it awful, and a sign of the times, that my first thought was, "I wonder if Apple is taking 30%?"

porruka (Admin) – March 13, 2011 06:18AM Reply Quote
Jeff, I know what you mean, but that should actually be a question asked of EVERY 3rd party that accepts donations through a non-direct system: "How much goes to the intended recipient?"

bahamut – March 13, 2011 07:21AM Reply Quote
Jeff,

Of course they take the 30% cut. How else to ensure that the money is delivered with the proper UI?

Re: subscriptions and such. My sense is that the WSJ app is the most important app for the iPad. I use mine constantly, but I see it all over the trains and busses. Wall Street really IS NYC… whether you like it or not and I'm in the latter camp and to some degree, the same goes for the world… That's a vast overstatement… BUT what I mean is that the success of something on WS trickles down to CEOs and managers who want to be like the boys in Brooks Brothers and to everywhere else. Obviously there's dilution, but still. The Wall Street Journal app was huge for that. It leads to the Daily, which is recognition that the Times just doesn't get it. I actually subscribe to the Journal (first time in 2 decades) to read it on the iPad not only once a day but often twice a day and I've been in a focus group on the topic for the WSJ folks. In contrast, the NYT app just delivers new headlines via push… it won't UPDATE the content. It's that broken. It's impossible to use. Pretty building. That's about it. Go into the Dean and Deluca there. Bathrooms are busted to shit after 3 years. Pretty typical of the NYT.

John Willoughby – March 13, 2011 02:09PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
I was really disappointed with The Daily. It's just USA Today, only centered around bad jpeg compression.

YDD – March 14, 2011 10:01AM Reply Quote
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I was really disappointed with The Daily. It's just USA Today, only centered around bad jpeg compression.
There's a newspaper dedicated to discussing a compression algorithm? I would imagine that that makes for a less than riveting read ;-)

John Willoughby – March 14, 2011 10:09AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
It really does.

Jeff Cooper – March 16, 2011 09:41AM Reply Quote
This saddens me. Long before there was an Apple Computer, the Granny Smith Apple logo was an instantly recognizable, and widely recognized, symbol (of massive self-indulgence, excessive drug use, the bitter breakdown of longstanding friendships--and amazing music). I know this is part of the broad settlement between Apple and Apple, but it still doesn't sit right.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – March 16, 2011 09:16PM Reply Quote
Sosumi?

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – March 23, 2011 05:40PM Reply Quote
Baseless lawsuit...

Real who?

Key point:

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By March 2009, all digital music files sold on iTunes were sold without proprietary software, according to a footnote in the court order.

So what else would the court like Apple to do?

Cloudscout – March 23, 2011 05:44PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Remove the DRM from the millions of files sold before then.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – March 23, 2011 10:01PM Reply Quote
You can upgrade to a drm-free track for a small fee.

Shouldn't realnetworks be providing DRM-free tracks to former customers?

Jeff Cooper – March 24, 2011 04:09PM Reply Quote
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Tony Leggett
You can upgrade to a drm-free track for a small fee.

Not such a small fee for those who had purchased multiple hundreds of tracks. Trust me. At least the fee bought us higher quality tracks as well as removal of DRM.

Cloudscout – March 24, 2011 04:41PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
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Tony Leggett
You can upgrade to a drm-free track for a small fee.

Shouldn't realnetworks be providing DRM-free tracks to former customers?

If they had used their dominant market position in one area to gain a dominant market position in another area while actively erecting barriers to entry for potential competition, yes.

Although not all of the tracks Apple sold were made available for the DRM-free upgrade. Still, that's beside the point.

While it's perfectly legal to have a dominating position over a given market segment, it is not legal to use that position to force out competition in another segment. Apple was the indisputable leader in the portable music player market and parlayed that into their leadership of the digital music sales market. That by itself may have gathered regulatory scrutiny but probably could have survived without issue but when they actively took steps to prevent RealNetworks from selling music to iPod owners, they crossed a line.

Sure, Apple started selling DRM-free tracks later on but that didn't change the fact that they had already crushed the competition by tying the iPod and iTunes together and taking steps to lock out competitors. I haven't looked into the arguments in this case, but I'm sure RealNetworks wants money since that's really all they can hope for given the lack of time travel technology.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – March 28, 2011 02:37PM Reply Quote

Cloudscout – March 30, 2011 05:56PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – March 30, 2011 07:47PM Reply Quote
Dammit, I spent an hour reading through that...

Cloudscout – March 30, 2011 08:04PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Hehe. So did I.

El Jeffe – March 31, 2011 04:01AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
sounds like there needs to be (ddt) an App that pushes/subscribes to old news like this.
XX "years ago today" app?
Set the years back you want, and it brings up a new article from the past everyday. Or works it into an RSS stream?

porruka (Admin) – March 31, 2011 05:18AM Reply Quote
Damn you, CS!

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