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ghidorah's Avatar Picture ghidorah – December 14, 2007 05:46PM Reply Quote
We all know it. This is the spot to get it off your chest.

El Jeffe – December 13, 2008 09:47AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
sleep with BOTH of them at the same time and see if it helps any. Report back....with photos if possible. :)

Mokers (Moderator) – December 13, 2008 10:26AM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
I perish the thought of the two of them occupying the same room. As charming as I am, I don't think I could get them to occupy the same bed. Perhaps when I get rich enough, I'll give it a try.

Jeff Cooper – December 16, 2008 05:19PM Reply Quote
And this is what really got me signed on to post this evening. Getting close to the edge again.

I fucking hate the holidays.

El Jeffe – December 16, 2008 05:41PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Hang in there. I'm free tomorrow if youd like to talk about it and see me on my clear liquid diet attitude. :)
I have to get scoped Thursday morning.

ddt – December 16, 2008 05:57PM Reply Quote
Be strong and patient, Jeff. I know, it all stinks.

ddt

stan adams – December 17, 2008 05:22AM Reply Quote
We all cope in different ways.

I've been getting FAT. Yippee.

John Willoughby – December 17, 2008 08:37AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Due to the wonders of influenza and strep, I've lost 7 pounds in three days. Blood pressure has improved, too. If I can just get a little sicker, I'll be in perfect health.

ghidorah – December 17, 2008 10:39PM Reply Quote
Raise taxes on cavemen. --jw
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If I can just get a little sicker, I'll be in perfect health.

GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO!

El Jeffe – December 23, 2008 06:28AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Darn. I find myself here today. :(

John Willoughby – December 23, 2008 06:56AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
I'm sorry, Bill. I hope whatever tempest has arisen settles soon.

Madaracs – December 27, 2008 08:52AM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
You know what sucks? Christmas with the visit from the monthly bill.

And a month ago when we bought the tree... (What I now refer to as the Great Tree Incident) I was almost made to sleep on the driveway. In 3" of snow.

Anyway... things should get better next week. Hang in there guys.

Jeff Cooper – January 18, 2009 05:59AM Reply Quote
I blew up at K this morning, and of course it's entirely my fault; the fact that she was treating me like shit before it happened (and with me dragging from the effects of my shot last night) is entirely irrelevant.

El Jeffe – January 18, 2009 06:56AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Sorry.

I had MY KIDS watch Joel Olsteen today. His topic was controlling one's anger against others. I have never watched him, really. But he is funny, and serves up a good lesson.

Not saying you should watch him. I found it helpful in a reflective way, today. And my kids did laugh, too.

One story he told.

A man was in a diner. In walked some bikers. One guy 'accidently' knocked the guy's food off, and poured water on him. The guy wiped himself off, and left the bar. The biker said "not much of a man, was he?". The diner guy said "yeah, and not much of a driver, either. He just ran over all your choppers!".

My kids thought that was funny.

The theme pretty much was "Calm, cool, collected" today.

Okay, I'll shut up. But, best of luck to you.

John Willoughby – January 18, 2009 08:27AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
I was a marvel of even-tempered magnanimity before I had kids. I haven't had a good night's sleep since, and I am now surly and ill-tempered. One of the miracles of parenthood.

Sorry you're having such a bad day, Jeff. I hope things get better.

ddt – March 01, 2009 06:09AM Reply Quote
oh man, tony, i'm so sorry. that's not a good place to be in at all.

don't really feel competent to offer good advice aside from write/call dan savage: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=1133478

ddt

John Willoughby – March 01, 2009 08:10AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
My Nag to Shag ratio is 0:0. I'd welcome an increase in either number at this point.

El Jeffe – March 01, 2009 08:45AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
How about FAQ-to-Shaq ratio for us sports fan? :)

John Willoughby – March 01, 2009 05:02PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
I can sympathize, but you have to care to nag, you know?

El Jeffe – March 01, 2009 05:11PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
That's kinda like what I tell my kids. I wouldn't correct them on certain things if I didn't care.

stan adams – March 02, 2009 07:14AM Reply Quote
Depends what the nagging is about / focused on -- if it is shit that you really ought to have bit more awareness of AND broad consensus exists to support the "nagger" over the "naggie" {doing the dishes, spending responsibly, being involved in child care, etc) I think that is one thing. More than slightly different is 'generalized nagging' of the sort that suggests dissatisfaction with a broad range of topics / behaviors, upon which there is decidedly less consensus as to there being a single "correct way to do it".
Good examples is this thread: http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-168236.0.html (though the tables are turned and it seems to be an international forum...) Salty soup? Unwhite shirts? Something else is at work.

Here is the simple explanation: http://www.todaysseniorsnetwork.com/Nagging_Spouse.htm 'Reactance' -- a fear of loss of autonomy. Makes perfect sense if new mom sees baby "consuming" all identity that she'd project that loss of individualness about dad and attempt to usurp some of your autonomy. Depending upon the degree to which this is something that the two of you can rationally discuss, the "traditional" course of talking about "I feel hurt when you criticism my ___________" might be enough, but even then some third party stuff (workbooks or counselor) can be helpful. The other thing, is that while I used to be pretty dismissive of vitamins and low doses of the popular prescriptions for depressiony kinds of things, I do think that they can be helpful. From PMS to just exhaustion there is A LOT going on when you go from happy-go-lucky rabbits to having a brood to deal with (even one)...

Good Luck! Voice of experience...

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