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rino's Avatar Picture rino – December 11, 2007 04:54AM Reply Quote
Generally miffed at something? Let the world know.



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rino – December 11, 2007 04:55AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
I'm sitting here watching the Adobe Updater and PatcherApplication kill, absolutely kill and bring to its knees my pretty new MacBook Pro. It's been 10 minutes, I've killed all other processes, I can't do anything on that machine, so typing this on secondary machine while I WAIT FOR ADOBEs CRAP!

Why does Adobe suck so much in this area?

Big steaming, stinky, biffy shake for these bozos.

stan adams – December 11, 2007 08:23AM Reply Quote
COMCRAP!

I still have to do my own diagnostics to be sure of what I'm seeing but the general symptoms are frequent lack of connectivity.

I really do know what I am doing, as I kinda paid for doing this at work all damned day BUT before I demand a truck roll I want to be 100% sure.

The damned net "goes away" all damned night. I've been leaving ping running and the damned terminal window will just stop. Sometimes for minutes at a time, other pretty much all together. A cable modem power cycle will make everything better for a bit MOST times.

Other times I will get the "no route to host" message, which tells me the cable modem probably rebooted on its own and won't even give out a non-routeable addy to my router.

The info from docsdiag mostly tells me this is NOT a case of a flaky connection to the cable, but I'm not 100% sure. I am leaning toward some sort of odd ball throttling that Comcrap has tried to implement, which will mean I am 100% at the mercy of their moronic policies and not even a truck roll will fix it.

You have no idea have maddening this is unless you are used to a semi-OK connection and then it BREAKS. It is bad enough when you are just surfing, and something is taking too long. A quick glance at the STOPPED term window with ping just sitting there at least confirms "I can try later". THe real torture is when trying to upload a photo or something and the damned connection just STOPS multiple times and the idiotic app/uploading site makes you RE_LOGING over and over and over.

ARGH!!!!!

rino – December 11, 2007 08:29AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
I've been there ... my cable modem was an older model and they had been rolling out over the wire firmware upgrades. I had to call and talk to a real person (read: not 1st level tech support) and they saw me although I wasn't getting an IP -- they tickled it a few times and voila I have been pretty stable since.

But these companies are damn beasts.

johnny k – December 11, 2007 08:35AM Reply Quote
Yeah, dude, that's why I dropped them for SBC/AT&T DSL. But same shit, different provider. Noticeably in the evenings, my connection drops and takes 30 seconds to reestablish before doing it all over again a few minutes later. Adding to this is Leopard's menubar wifi control - if I have a connection, it won't show me any other base stations, so it's a real pain to hop on an open access point that has internet up.



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Madaracs – December 12, 2007 06:44PM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!


This image is so appropriate to the thread, I just had to repost from Sporke:

"...His mind-boggling computers almost instantly mix him... ...a chocolate shake! To some, the action may appear frivolous... ..even that of a man driven mad by foreknowledge of impending calamity. Superman knows, however, that his mind can use a few seconds of unraveling..."




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Benton Ellis – December 17, 2007 06:35AM Reply Quote
Do not mistake temptation for opportunity.
Delurking momentarily ...

If you or anybody you know uses Quickbooks, DO NOT OPEN THE PROGRAM UNTIL YOU READ THESE THREADS:

http://www.quickbooksgroup.com/webx/forums/mac/1907

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1294040&tstart=0

Auto or manually checking for updates will delete the Desktop folder. People have lost gigs of data. Major milkshake for Intuit unless it's found that something else caused this.

Relurking ...

tliet – December 17, 2007 07:56AM Reply Quote
Ironic that the QuickBook boards seem to be running WebX...



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Robert Taylor – December 17, 2007 10:40AM Reply Quote
Why does Adobe suck so much in this area?

The updaters get written in India, and they did a really bad job of incorporating bugs and feedback given to them from Seattle and San Jose?

For the record, they handled most of the installer testing work for the CS3 suite as well. Which was months late, put us at serious risk of slipping the schedule, and the InDesign CS3 team pointed out on multiple occasions how badly this was going to screw us.

Theoretically, this new installer/updater engine was going to fart rainbows and do wonderful things. It's turned out to be a gigantic pain point and created all kinds of tech support messes to clean up.

rino – December 17, 2007 03:16PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
...and is a giant PR win!


Not.

We have a two dialogs from CS3 printed out for our wall of shame.

Robert Taylor – December 31, 2007 11:32AM Reply Quote
I wasn't a big fan of the UI, either, but my issues were punted/deferred. Designed at last minute and not enough time to really integrate any customer feedback, of course...

rino – January 15, 2008 11:46AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
I'm back with CS3 bitching and moaning:

Annoying Adobe Updater

bahamut – January 15, 2008 01:34PM Reply Quote
Whoa! Apple wants $850 for 4gb RAM for a MB. I bought my wife her 4gb for $100. That's just outrageous and exploitational.

stan adams – January 15, 2008 01:41PM Reply Quote
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baha
outrageous and exploitational

You gotta love the balls on 'em for doing it, though, don't ya? What like they buy the DIMMS once and then milk the price decrease until they geta new model? Imagine if the gas stations did this with fuel prices -- we set out prices once every quarter and play the commodity markets to fatten our bottom line. That would go over real well...

Mighty Mouse – January 15, 2008 04:30PM Reply Quote
Apple has *always* been way high on RAM and hard drives. Unless it's just a nasty task (Mac Mini, for example) I'll just get the base config on RAM and HD and upgrade those two myself. I'm about to order a Mac Pro and will be doing just that.

It's like going to 7-11 to buy your milk and bread; probably easier to get to, but you're going to pay a bit more.

Madaracs – January 15, 2008 05:23PM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
I think any OEM is high. On RAM. And stuff. And high if they think I'll ever buy that sort of thing from them.

El Jeffe – January 16, 2008 02:09AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
How the hell does this loser have $180 MILLION in liabilities??
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0115084nifong1.html

What a journey.

Cloudscout – January 16, 2008 06:07AM Reply Quote
Me, I want a hula-hoop.
The liabilities are all related to the lawsuits filed against him now. It's potentially $180 million if he were to lose them all and the plaintiff's were awarded everything they're asking for.

El Jeffe – January 16, 2008 07:58AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
ahh...in that matter, it's too LOW.

What a journey.

bahamut – January 16, 2008 06:02PM Reply Quote
wow the icons on the new office are HORRIBLE.

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