MacOS X a dog or just in need of a good bitch slap?

OK, here's one thing that REALLY frustrates me. Sending a file from Preview will ALWAYS start Mail.app, even though I've set Microsoft Outlook 2011 to be the default mail client. Googling doesn't yield anything useful, other than the procedure to start Mail.app to specify another default mail client (way to go Apple), which then isn't respected by Preview.

Anybody a clue on this one?

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tliet
OK, here's one thing that REALLY frustrates me. Sending a file from Preview will ALWAYS start Mail.app, even though I've set Microsoft Outlook 2011 to be the default mail client. Googling doesn't yield anything useful, other than the procedure to start Mail.app to specify another default mail client (way to go Apple), which then isn't respected by Preview.

Anybody a clue on this one?

"Don't do that"

It's not Preview doing a "send to email client" call...

Services (I'm assuming this is what you're referring to) are provided by the external Cocoa app, not Preview. Office 2011 is not Cocoa. http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1113035

Not sure if I explained it correctly, so here's a screenshot:



What I mean is this menu option in Preview; Mail selected PDF document. Preview then always starts Mail.app, even though Outlook is selected in Mail.app as the default email client. And it shouldn't matter that Outlook is not written in Cocoa, should it? Or is it simply not possible to have a non-Cocoa application respond to an event like this?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/01/2012 08:07PM by tliet.

Why don't you drag the icon of the pdf (the little one in the middle of the document title bar) and drop it directly on outlook instead?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/01/2012 08:42PM by Tony Leggett.

Ha! Thanks Tony, hadn't realised that was possible.

Cheers!

edit; still, it's absolutely ridiculous that Preview insists hardcoded to use Mail.app, this is not 1995 anymore.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/01/2012 10:42PM by tliet.

Cool. Missed this feature of Lion. I removed (screen shared) other Mac next to me. But on a different 'desktop' than the one on the physically-attached monitor.
Two people using same computer simultaneously with different desktops.... !!!!
Is this totally NEW? Or have I been sleeping?

I do not like the monochrome finder icons. I find that my scan/find time for attached drives (e.g. yellow firewire; or various dmgs) is far too long compared to the colorful icons.

http://www.thegeeksclub.com/lion-tweaks-tweaker-mac-os can do what you want. But I see in the latest version a reminder that you'll need to apply the coloured icon tweak everytime you reboot.

What's the thinking on whether you'll be able to go from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion, without stepping through Lion? Yes, no, maybe?

ddt

I doubt it.

Can't see Apple passing up $30 in Apple Tax...

After 11 years finally got tired of Outlook not doing what I wanted (being able to run against 2 calendaring systems zum beispiel, and Outlook 2011 being a buggy dog overall) I've decided to ditch it and try my luck with Mail and iCal.

So far, I'm pretty impressed. The way it integrates with my corporate Exchange 2010 setup is beyond smooth. It's probably helping that my org is in the process of rolling out iPhones throughout the organisation, but I'm not sure. (iPhone is using ActiveSync and I'm not sure if Lion is also using that).

However, I do miss one thing from Outlook; the way it presents the list of emails. I've been flip flopping a bit between the new (Lion, iPad like) way of presentation and the Classic way. Both have their advantages and disadvantages but I'm undecided here. Maybe someone else has run into the same issue and can enlighten me a bit.

1 In Outlook, it neatly organises emails by date (just like Mail) but it also puts a seperator between days. Cannot find this in Mail and it turns the overview in this huge list, without showing a clear cut between the days.

2 In Classic view, Mail will highlight threads, which annoys me. I cannot find a way to turn it off.

3 Then in 'Regular' mode, the list shows first the sender (in bold), then the subject below it (in regular type). When there's new email, it doesn't highlight the text. Instead, it shows the small dot in front of a name. I wish there was a way of changing this to sender-subject (on one line) which turned bold when it's unread.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/15/2012 05:33AM by tliet.

Ton, I can only address #1 -- but what might (might!) help is if you allow it to use relative dates, so that emails that came in today have a time stamp, ones that came in the day before are labeled "Yesterday", and older ones show the date numerically. Doesn't address all your concerns, but it does give a quick, System 1 (cf. "Thinking, Fast and Slow" by Kahneman) visual separator.

ddt

Thanks Daniel for the suggestion, currently Mail is set to exactly do that. Still, having a physical separator between days is for some reason stuck in my system and confuses the heck out of me now that I don't have it.

Yeah, I knew it wasn't a replacement, and it does nothing for days past the day before yesterday. But maybe your eyes will retrain a bit (not a solution, I know).

There are some people who hack mail.app (http://hrmpf.com/wordpress/8/essential-apple-mailapp-plug-ins-and-hacks and http://hawkwings.net came up in a quick search); I use WideMail because I can't stand the default layout of pre-Lion Mail.app.

ddt

Cool, thanks for that link. I'll investigate.

Can you automate sending yourself an e-mail every day at midnight with a distinctive subject line like "------------------------------------------------------------------------"?

Seems like it ought to be possible, though crude.

That's not a bad idea at all! Thanks. It looks like this, with some tweaking this could probably work.

Maybe a decent stopgap, until a more robust solution is found.

I think you should do some cooler ASCII art rather than just a line. Be creative!