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MacOS X a dog or just in need of a good bitch slap?

Dr Phred's Avatar Picture Dr Phred (Moderator) – December 10, 2007 10:05AM Reply Quote
Can't keep a good topic down....

-Swine Flu free since...cough, cough...

El Jeffe – February 16, 2012 03:27PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
downloaded Black Magic disk test from app store.
is 3-4 MB/s write speed GOOD?
(LMFAO!!!) [rhetorical question!]

tomierna (Admin) – February 16, 2012 03:57PM Reply Quote
Hideously Unnatural
Spotlight likes to re-index after a Lion install. Also, there may be old low-level programs (like startup items, prefpanes or kernel extensions) which need to be updated for Lion. Pay close attention to Activity Monitor. Show all processes, sort by CPU usage.

John Willoughby – February 16, 2012 04:31PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Jeffe, if you did a bad upgrade to 10.7.3, those symptoms could result. Try using the 10.7.3 combo updater if your Console app shows lots of inexplicable errors.

El Jeffe – February 16, 2012 04:41PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I'll see how it does on Saturday --> I just ordered Seagate Momentus XT 750 from Amazon with one-day shipping.

Either way, I can use this drive somehow.
Yeah, spotlight is doing some work, too. Still, though, CPU is really low. MDS process under .5% it appears.



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John Willoughby – February 16, 2012 05:07PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Those are exactly the symptoms that my MacBook Air had when I updated to 10.7.3 through Software Update. Console showed dozens of errors a minute. Used the combo updater, and life was good again. A lot of people had problems with 10.7.3 and Apple pulled it from Software Update for a while. It's back, I'm told. I had thought it was fixed, but perhaps your experience proves otherwise.

ddt – February 16, 2012 05:41PM Reply Quote
That this came out today, I'll take as a sign to stick with 10.6.

ddt

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – February 16, 2012 08:24PM Reply Quote
Sounds like something barfed with the install (that or they're so proud of the colours in the beachball of death they now want you to take the time to appreciate it.

I've noticed a few of those mackeeper ads here lately. Has anyone used it?

El Jeffe – February 17, 2012 01:26AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
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ddt
That this came out today, I'll take as a sign to stick with 10.6.

ddt

you're not helping

;)

El Jeffe – February 17, 2012 05:50AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
ok, for combo update, just RUN IT?
Mac seemed better this morning, but I left to go to doctor, let disk speed test thing run, and it slowed to a 1 Mb(B?)/s crawl.

El Jeffe – February 17, 2012 06:10AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
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El Jeffe
Interesting. Could be a little intimidating, though. Clique-ish, perhaps.

This reads odd: "There many new features, I’m told, but today they’re going to focus on telling me about ten of them. "

This article today kind of is of the same sentiment as my thoughts.
http://tinyurl.com/7agdo9d

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It is not a shocker that Cook is pissed off at the NYTimes and cut off access. If you have covered Apple for a long time, this is beyond obvious and a fact of life. It happened to other reporters in the past, as well: Remember when Dan Lyons was revealed to be behind the Fake Steve Jobs blog? Apple then blackballed Newsweek from Apple events/coverage when the publication hired him (and, in fact, dissuaded Newsweek from hiring him).

John Willoughby – February 17, 2012 07:13AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
>ok, for combo update, just RUN IT?

Yes. Download from here, then run the updater. It fixed my MBA.

Dr Phred (Moderator) – February 17, 2012 11:02AM Reply Quote
-Swine Flu free since...cough, cough...
for me the improvements in lion outweigh the UI annoyances. For me Lion has been MUCH more stable. My macs on it just don't crash anymore. My main Macbook Pro used to lock up often. Clean installs for 10.6 didn't help. 10.7 stopped them. Mail is greatly improved as well.

tliet – February 17, 2012 11:44AM Reply Quote
Lion has so far be fine for me, although it *locked* up completely when I plugged in an frikkin' ethernet cable last week. My MacBook Pro was frozen solid and couldn't even be revived using the 3 finger salute. It has to be put out of its misery by holding down the power button for 5 seconds. I've never had it before and since, but I've also never had any crash/lockup with Snow Leopard.

I do like the toned down UI, it's much easier on the eyes. I saw 10.3 the other day. Man that hurts.

El Jeffe – February 17, 2012 12:50PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
oooh boy. I have to laugh. I went into Apps folder, selected all, and OPENed.... took an hour. lol
I wanted to go into each app and check for updates. Still sorting some out.
Mail and Calendar were scaring me a bit. But the Mail pref to switch back to classic saved me for now.


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Any suggestions on quick/easy/cheap app to download any/all/most web-based videos? Currently I have Click-to-Flash which allows some but not all to be VERY EASILY right-click/download, and they play on my NeoTV550 media player just fine. But some sites (e.g.: top gear) I can't seem to easily capture, and I don't WANT to go down the path of MACOSXHINTS (being usually pretty geeky and easily forgotten I find). One app seems promising and COSTLY... Jacksta! Any Jacksta alternatives that are not $50?

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UI --> I think the dark-on-darker stuff; low contrasty is not as good for me. I'm sure I can turn on stuff in uni-access.
I will reserve judgment for later.

johnny k – February 17, 2012 01:30PM Reply Quote
Ditto to Fred and Ton. I don't really think about Lion, and slowing succumbing to its whims. Found myself using the default All My Files view a lot this week. I really really like the behavior that opens everything back to where it was. Still fighting the Duplicate to edit a new copy, but worth the trade-off, and jumping right to Versions is useful. Looking forward to Documents in the Cloud... I don't use iCloud except for the address book sync or whatever I was getting before. Andy Ihnatko put it well when he said that usefulness goes up with a common file space between all the Apple devices. Dropbox isn't in every iOS app so this is what we're waiting for.

El Jeffe – February 18, 2012 12:20PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
WTH!
Where is Apple Mail's BOUNCE feature/button????

Gosh darnit!

Ok... here is one working solution. Know of any other good ones?

http://tinyurl.com/7wdr247

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1. Open Automator.

2. Create a new service.

3. Configure the service so that it has “no input” in “Mail”

4. Drag “Get Selected Mail Messages” into the workflow

5. Drag “Run Applescript” into the workflow

6. Use the following AppleScript, then save the workflow with a name like “Bounce Message”.

on run {input, parameters}
tell application "Mail"
repeat with eachMessage in input
bounce eachMessage
delete eachMessage # added as a suggestion to be more like the Apple functionality
end repeat
end tell
end run
7. In Mail, select the message you would like to bounce. Then from the “Mail” menu, choose “Services”, then click on your new service. The message will bounce.

El Jeffe – February 18, 2012 12:53PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
running combo did asymptotically reduce the console messages. But I have not seen noticeable speed differences.

SO..... I have the Seagate Momentus XT 750 sitting next to me. That is my project for tonight and likely tomorrow as well.

fingers crossed.

bahamut – February 20, 2012 04:48PM Reply Quote
Lion's a dog! Woof Woof Woof.

And yes, it's very easy to make a tragic mistake. Hold down one extra key and you're opening everything in the Applications folder. Couldn't there be a "do you really want to open 188 items?" dialog before my computer goes to a halt for many minutes?

El Jeffe – February 25, 2012 02:48PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Ok. finally installed the Seagate moments xt in mac mini. Did a complete blank/fresh install. then imported user from previous Lion time machine backup earlier today.
mds/spotlight still indexing, but it already feels much snappier. so far so good. though, the TM restore/migration asst is not without its hitches.

John Willoughby – February 25, 2012 03:04PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Super Duper is better for imaging, in my experience.

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