MacOS X a dog or just in need of a good bitch slap?
Dr Phred
(Moderator)
– December 10, 2007 10:05AM
Can't keep a good topic down....
-Swine Flu free since...cough, cough...
bahamut
– July 29, 2011 05:25AM
I know we've said it before, but I'm going to say it again.
The loss of Rosetta is a pretty big deal when you think about it.
Don't many DOS programs still run under Windows 7?
Meanwhile Apple has lost the ability not only to run Classic, in other words any program created before OS X but now any program written before 2006 and many written before 2007.
Isn't this a bit of a problem folks?
johnny k
– July 29, 2011 06:50AM
If there wasn't such a hard line, fewer developers would rewrite apps to stay modern (cough, Adobe) and it would drag the OS down. Apple seems to have found the right balance with developers now.
John Willoughby
– July 29, 2011 09:14AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Printing from Lion blows for me. Trying to print physical copies of travel documents; Safari prints just freeze; saving to PDF and printing from Preview is better, but ultimately freezes too. New drivers in Lion? Funky networking? Safari 5.1 Evil? No idea. But it blows.
Mokers
(Moderator)
– July 29, 2011 10:07AM
Formerly Remy Martin
Actually, there are a lot of Windows XP programs that run for shit in Windows 7 and Windows XP mode is not much better. And that is if you have the 32bit version. If you have 64bit Win 7, VMware is where it's at.
John Willoughby
– July 29, 2011 03:33PM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
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John Willoughby
Printing from Lion blows for me. Trying to print physical copies of travel documents; Safari prints just freeze; saving to PDF and printing from Preview is better, but ultimately freezes too. New drivers in Lion? Funky networking? Safari 5.1 Evil? No idea. But it blows.
Sent all my PDF's to my wife's Mac and they printed fine from there. Definitely a Lion issue.
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– July 29, 2011 04:27PM
Snow Leopard forever!
Aside from the "if you buy a new mac it will only run Lion" factor - is there any compelling must-have feature that Lion actually has?
John Willoughby
– July 29, 2011 05:36PM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
It's actually much more secure. That was what tipped me over the fence into upgrading.
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– July 30, 2011 02:44PM
Hmmm... Is Snow Leopard un-secure?
(may well be insecure but that's another story...)
John Willoughby
– July 31, 2011 09:04AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Snow Leopard partially implemented the loading of system code into different memory locations, making it harder for malware to attack. Important chunks of system code remained in fixed positions, though, and remained vulnerable. Lion loads all of the system code into varying locations, rendering it much more secure. In addition, applications can now designate processes with certain permissions so that, for example, your Safari PDF renderer cannot perform any task outside of its granted permissions. This is huge.
Mokers
(Moderator)
– July 31, 2011 01:02PM
Formerly Remy Martin
The built in whole disk encryption is magnitudes better than what you have in previous versions
El Jeffe
– July 31, 2011 01:14PM
What a journey.
hard disk ... magNETudes better ? LOL
John Willoughby
– July 31, 2011 05:07PM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Good point, Mokers.
tliet
– August 03, 2011 10:46AM
Lion is a different beast...
Bought a used (but very nice) MacBook Pro 15 early 2008 for cheap for my wife and it's running Lion beautifully. I would need some adjustment if I'm going to use this on my main production system though.
John Willoughby
– August 03, 2011 11:24AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
bahamut
– August 04, 2011 04:14AM
Oh that would be dandy. So all of 2011's Mac software would be dead by what, 2015 at the latest? We would lose Boot Camp, Fusion, and Parallels? We would be tied to another questionable processor that could not keep up with Intel and have to endure jokes about how the Mac is a glorified iPhone.
Well, I guess… that crap sandwich sounds great to me. BOHICA!
Cloudscout
– August 04, 2011 08:12AM
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Keep in mind, Microsoft has been demoing Windows 8 on the ARM platform as well. There could be something to this.
tliet
– August 04, 2011 11:30AM
"So all of 2011's Mac software would be dead by what, 2015 at the latest?"
Well, all of 2006 era software is now completely dead, so it wouldn't surprise me. After all, the chimney has to keep smoking.
bahamut
– August 04, 2011 11:57AM
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– August 04, 2011 04:48PM
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bahamut
Oh that would be dandy. So all of 2011's Mac software would be dead by what, 2015 at the latest? We would lose Boot Camp, Fusion, and Parallels? We would be tied to another questionable processor that could not keep up with Intel and have to endure jokes about how the Mac is a glorified iPhone.
Well, I guess… that crap sandwich sounds great to me. BOHICA!
Amen.
Unless the A6 or whatever it's called does
seamless emulation at near native speeds - what the hell is the point?
It's an unnecessary forced march. If I was a software vendor I'd seriously consider abandoning support for Macs altogether. There's more money to be made supporting x86 and Windows.
