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MacOS X a dog or just in need of a good bitch slap?

Dr Phred's Avatar Picture Dr Phred (Moderator) – December 10, 2007 10:05AM Reply Quote
Can't keep a good topic down....

-Swine Flu free since...cough, cough...

John Willoughby – July 17, 2011 03:25PM Reply Quote
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Chubby Bunnies need love too.

bahamut – July 17, 2011 04:52PM Reply Quote
But Chubby Bunny works with Quicken 2007??

John Willoughby – July 17, 2011 05:28PM Reply Quote
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I haven't checked. If I had to guess, I would say that Quicken 2007 will run, but the emulator will crash a lot. Also, Sheepshaver's networking has always been very slow and problematic. I use it for old games, not for serious work.

(EDIT: CoI Chubby Bunny is just Sheepshaver in a nice wrapper.)



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ddt – July 19, 2011 08:17PM Reply Quote
Okay, here's another use case that to my mind illustrates the folly of getting rid of the spatial metaphor and relying on search.

I have photos of my cyclocross bike that I want to sell. Since they were taken on my iphone, they had names like IMG_xxxx.jpg, or even "photo.jpg". Try searching your hard drive for files named like that. I'll wait. Be back in a few hours.

Yes, I could have come up with some naming scheme for each photo, or tagged each one -- that means a multiple-step process for each photo taken and imported, though. Placing the photos into a single named folder, or within a folder hierarchy, would be one step per photo. And this mirrors the mental model we all have of STUFF.

Tell me again, why is search ALWAYS better?

ddt

John Willoughby – July 19, 2011 08:39PM Reply Quote
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Hold on, I'll Google the answer...

Roger – July 20, 2011 06:54AM Reply Quote
Ars on the Finder: sounds like it's still arsed. I winced in anticipatory pain just reading about the "Browse in x view" checkbox.

John Willoughby – July 20, 2011 08:10AM Reply Quote
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Since Apple has changed its OS licensing to allow running Lion in a VM on a Mac, is it possible that they will allow non-server Snow Leopard to run in Parallels and VMWare? Maybe not right away, to drive folks to the new platform, but eventually? It would be a nice way to allow legacy apps to survive.

In the meantime, I guess I could install a hacked Snow Leopard in a VM. If I had the disk space for it, anyway.

Cloudscout – July 20, 2011 10:06AM Reply Quote
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In an interesting turn of events, my new role actually includes responsibility for all of the Macs in our organization. I had my first meeting with my Mac lead this morning.

One thing he told me about is that Lion uses a different partitioning scheme. If you have a system disk with Lion installed on it, you must use the version of Disk Utility included with Lion in order to do anything with that disk. If you plug it into a Snow Leopard system and run Disk Utility, it won't be able to see the drive.

He suspects that this has something to do with the hidden restore partition that Lion creates. Even if you're using Lion's version of Disk Utility, it won't let you see the restore partition.

In other words, Apple now owns your hard drive.

John Willoughby – July 20, 2011 10:24AM Reply Quote
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Siracusa doesn't mention the Lion-only thing. Is he certain that he didn't turn on the new whole-disk encryption? Ars describes the new partition and says that it can be removed or mounted with the command-line diskutil. He also says that it can be removed by re-partitioning the volume with Disk Utility, though he agrees that Disk Utility only shows the partition as a small "blank space."

[EDIT]
Actually, it makes sense that only Lion's Disk Utility would work. They've added a high-level volume manager (I forget the name), to support the whole-disk encryption and other things. Maybe Snow Leopard's Disk utility will eventually get an update.

[EDIT][EDIT]
Core Storage. That's the new volume tech.



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tliet – July 21, 2011 09:48AM Reply Quote
So I got Lion, but now I'm not sure if I should upgrade. My machine is rock and rock solid, haven't had a crash or lockup in years. And it's a workhorse that I need to be able to depend on.

Any experiences with upgrades?

johnny k – July 21, 2011 10:44AM Reply Quote
I'm waiting a few weeks. Might get to test drive it at the lab first.

Jeff Cooper – July 21, 2011 03:46PM Reply Quote
I'm going to test it on my MBA (late 2009 edition). It has very few third-party apps installed, and it won't be mission-critical for another month, so I figure it's a good test bed.

bahamut – July 25, 2011 04:02AM Reply Quote
So I got the new MBA and with it, we have Lion.

Thus far, It seems like it's the unprecedented UI clusterfuck I feared it would be.

Take dashboard. I never used it that much, but the way I thought of it was

1. it was an overlay … so in my most common use, I'd use the calculator to sum up something in the app below.
2. it was invoked with one button press.

Now

1. it has a weird ass textured background. these are ugly…very country casual… and found throughout, giving the mac a sort of Windows appearance. and yes, you cannot see what lies below.
2. you know have to go into the launchpad (one button press) and then move your mouse/trackpad to get to it …

Luckily… after I wrote that I discovered that

1. you can turn of the dashboard in space "feature"
2.you can add the dashboard to command f4 and may go further if i get rid of the launchpad.

But still, this is madness. Why mess with this sort of thing? When there are many more important things that have actually been broken in the Mac for years (FTP upload in Finder, cough cough… oh i suppose dropping FTP upload from file sharing is the response??).

In Safari, discovered that while gestures allow you to go back and forth in page history, they don't allow you to move between tabs. Ah, the delights of hiring from the bottom of the barrel in interface grads.

bahamut – July 25, 2011 04:09AM Reply Quote
Better Touch Tool took care of the swiping. I guess power users still need em third party apps.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – July 25, 2011 04:11PM Reply Quote
Mac OS X Lion™ - Change for change's sake!

bahamut – July 27, 2011 04:39AM Reply Quote
Lion's growing on me… I like the full screen mode for apps BUT get this for messed up.

Go into mail.app -> full screen mode.
Try writing an email.
Decide you want to check another email for more info, perhaps cut and paste.

SUCKER!

You can't get out of the email, which is a modal window without canceling it.

Oh easy, hit command control F (which is not the normal command shift F every other app uses) to get out of full screen.

Nop. Doesn't work.

Love love love!

bahamut – July 27, 2011 04:44AM Reply Quote
Oh I guess you can go up to the menu bar and disable it that way. I dunno. Seems like there should be a non-mousey way to do it.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – July 27, 2011 03:45PM Reply Quote
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Seems like there should be a non-mousey way to do it.

That will be a 3rd party opportunity of course...

So what's the consensus on Lion - does it eventually make sense or is it just a UI clusterfuck?

"If it ain't broke..."

bahamut – July 27, 2011 06:48PM Reply Quote
Oh …  NO! NO more bounce e-mail in mail.app … wads.

John Willoughby – July 27, 2011 08:39PM Reply Quote
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Damn. I liked that feature.

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