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Thanks, CS.

In for two 32GBs.

I did the software update in them tonight and some of the quirks are improved but I'm still looking forward to an Android build.

Both sold out now. All it takes to beat the iPad is to sell your tablet for $100 less than it costs you to make. Too bad the only company that can afford that kind of expense is Apple. Not that it would.

Huh, the 32GB version still lists for $449, even in a cart.

So if HP withdraws all support, how would one get ebooks and put them on the tablet, or deal with e-format changes?

ddt

so, what FUTURE do those things have? I mean, how do you think you'll use them long-term? Is WebOS officially dead and developer support drying up totally (iYo)?

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If nothing else, I'm looking at it as a Kindle. If formats change and the Kindle app for it doesn't get updated, I would assume the web-based reader would still work.

That's the worst-case scenario.

Longer term, I'm just hoping that a usable Android build is a possibility.

I bit and talked people at work into biting, too.

Motherf***ers. My credit card was updated a few months ago with a new one. Same number, different date and security code. I updated my auto-billing AT&T iPhone accounts, and was going to do my iPad when I got an e-mail saying that it had just auto-renewed. As it did for the next three months. Today, it declined. Because it failed to auto-renew, I lost my grandfathered unlimited data plan. Motherf***ers. I liked not even having to think about the usage. I probably won't ever run over on the 2GB plan, but now I have to THINK about it. Motherf***ers.

After just one failure with no option to remedy? They really are getting desperate to get people off the grandfathered plans.

I have to call and ask, but it's hard from work.

I think this situation was mentioned in a recent mac-oriented podcast. Though I listen to so many I can't recall which one. Sorry.

No problem. In the end, it will be hand-to-hand combat between me and a random AT&T customer service rep. (Cue Star Trek arena music... pony up your quatloos, bettors.)

After battling past the front-line of AT&T's customer rebuff system, I got to a very knowledgable and helpful rep. She gave me a 30 day unlimited data plan, a promo plan, since I had already paid for 2GB plan and the alternative would be to double-charge me. Now, in 30 days I have to manually sign up for unlimited (which she alleges will be a choice in the pop-up menu at that time for me), and then auto-renewal will kick in as always after that.

So, while AT&T's automated systems done me wrong, their people did okay by me. With less than a minute on hold, to boot.

And, by not updating my seemingly-functional credit card, I invited this whole fiasco.

So OnSale just canceled my Touchpad order for "lack of stock".

Strangely, if you visit the same link CS posted above they have it in stock, 34 available, for $499.

Methinks this vendor just did something shady, or wasn't able to secure the same deal as Best Buy with regards to their channel pricing.

Those links on Amazon aren't static links to a specific retailer's stock. They are product pages and the specific retailer and pricing displayed varies from moment-to-moment based on availability, pricing and who Bezos had lunch with.

Yeah, it's possible that the retailer-of-the-moment were unable to get price protection from HP on their stock.

It's also possible that this is becoming wider-spread than expected. As seen elsewhere here, I've been on a quest for an HP Pre 3 phone at the fire-sale pricing that everyone's been anticipating. While HP's own online store was saying yesterday that the price reduction was imminent, the site no longer mentions anything about price reductions... now they simply say that the product is not expected to be available this week and that they will post an update on Friday.

Do you think there's a chance that HP may be having a change of heart? Could the runaway success of the TouchPad fire-sale have caused them to reconsider their exit from the WebOS device business?

Maybe they have a potential buyer for the WebOS business and don't want to complicate the transaction with the logistics of a fire-sale. Unlike the TouchPad, the Pre 3 isn't a device that has been sitting on retailers' shelves all summer. These are new devices which retailers have been awaiting delivery of. Maybe HP wants to wait until some undisclosed arrangement is settled before they ship product from their warehouses.

Some Touchpads were apparently SOLD with Android 2.2 installed! ROM image has been made available.

This is getting frustrating. The more I use WebOS, the more I like it.

I have some theories about why it failed... none of those theories has anything to do with shortcomings in the OS.

I think it's biggest problem was timing. WebOS phones were just too late to the party. By the time the Palm Pre walked in the door, all the pretty girls had already gone upstairs with iPhone, Android or Blackberry. When its cousin TouchPad showed up, they were left hanging out with the girl wearing orthodontic headgear and struggling to get anything but foam out of the keg.

Yeah, when they announced availability I thought, "That's at least six months too late." WebOS was going to be my refuge if Apple drove Kindle off iOS, so I wanted them to succeed. (I like a more managed platform than Android's shaping up to be.)

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So OnSale just canceled my Touchpad order for "lack of stock".

Strangely, if you visit the same link CS posted above they have it in stock, 34 available, for $499.

Methinks this vendor just did something shady, or wasn't able to secure the same deal as Best Buy with regards to their channel pricing.

DataVision out of New York sold somewhere between 8,000 and 10,000 of these via their site and eBay on Saturday the 20th. On Tuesday the 23rd, they sent an email to everyone saying that they expected to ship everyone's orders by the end of the week with the exception of people who ordered large quantities... those people would only receive part of their order at first with the rest of their orders being filled this week.

In fact, here is EXACTLY what they said:

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We have freight tracking # from HP with enough orders so that everyone will receive their complete order.
For those that ordered 10, 50, or 100, they will be PARTIALLY filled this week, and the balance FILLED most likely next week.

They gave a couple more updates over the week with continued assurances that the units were on the way and that everyone would be receiving their items. On Friday they even promised to post a copy of the bill of lading for the shipment from HP.

Apparently this was all BS. They never posted the bill of lading or the freight tracking number... probably because they never existed. An hour ago, they posted the following update which included the following statement:

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We unfortunately have not received the tracking as I hoped to have passed on to you at this point. The money has been drawn from our account, which we assumed was a good sign.We will give this another day or two before we decide what to do.

Now, at least OnSale was relatively quick to cancel everyone's orders. It may have been dishonest to represent themselves as having inventory available that they didn't actually have but at least they came clean within the first 72 hours.

DataVision has dragged this out for 9 days by repeatedly lying to their customers... all of them made their purchases before Best Buy started selling their inventory. How many of those people would have tried to get one from Best Buy if it wasn't for the fact that they believed they had a valid order already in place?

OnSale has seen their Amazon feedback rating fall into the crapper since this ordeal happened... but unlike eBay where your feedback rating is significant, Amazon feedback ratings are often ignored by shoppers who don't quite understand that buying something ON Amazon.com doesn't mean you're actually buying something FROM Amazon.com.

DataVision does a lot of business via eBay. Suddenly getting 8000 negative ratings is going to hurt them a lot.

DPBD

I just noticed that OnSale is actually MacMall/PCMall.