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Cloudscout's Avatar Picture Cloudscout – January 14, 2008 10:08AM Reply Quote
Box mini
Box Pro
BoxBook Pro

The more the boxes change, the more they stay the same... or don't.

(talk about the hardware here)

Dr Phred (Moderator) – March 11, 2008 02:20PM Reply Quote
owned by the mothership.
Just upgraded to 320GB drive in my Macbook Pro. 186GB free!

Of course 320GB=298GB but who's complaining....

Simon – March 11, 2008 09:59PM Reply Quote
This could fall under a number of categories but it looks like the TSA has secretly been cloning JObs because they seem to have their own army of TSOs:


Dr Phred (Moderator) – April 28, 2008 04:41AM Reply Quote
owned by the mothership.
New iMacs this am. a day early but not a surprise. No word on the screens. Graphics still a disappointment.

El Jeffe – April 28, 2008 04:56AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
jumped the gun? What's going on at Apple, Inc.?

Simon – April 28, 2008 04:21PM Reply Quote
in the tech specs it say "Millions of colors at all resolutions", but I guess you would want to wait till someone has actually tested it before taking them at their word.

Jeff Cooper – April 28, 2008 05:11PM Reply Quote
in the tech specs it say "Millions of colors at all resolutions", but I guess you would want to wait till someone has actually tested it before taking them at their word.

But they said more or less the same thing about the last generation.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/28/2008 05:11PM by Jeff Cooper.

John Willoughby – April 28, 2008 09:33PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
Have to wait to see what class-action lawsuits are filed.

Simon – April 29, 2008 01:29AM Reply Quote
How did they prove otherwise the last time?

El Jeffe – April 29, 2008 02:28AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Does anyone make a SENSOR that can be placed on an LCD and actually MEASURE (count) the number of colors?

I personally DOUBT IT LIKE HELL. And if a sensor canNOT be created, WHO THE F CARES ABOUT IT?

tomierna (Admin) – April 29, 2008 03:18AM Reply Quote
Hideously Unnatural
The way it was figured out last time is there are ways to generate blends and colors which don't dither well.

The 6bit/color displays show certain banding artifacts when exercised like that, where 8bit/color displays won't.


On Edit:

Bill, why do you doubt a sensor could be created? There are plenty of color-matching sensors out there that suction to a part of a CRT or LCD for tweaking colors. More importantly, we already have sensors that are sensitive enough to color to have 10 and 12-bit per color cameras. Why couldn't one of these sensors be used?

Of course, the sensors it matter to are our eyes, so the answer to this question:


Is: "Those of us who can see well enough to see the artifacts on a 6bit per color display."

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/29/2008 03:22AM by tomierna.

El Jeffe – April 29, 2008 04:13AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I personally think the amount of change via the transmittance of light through the LCD out layer and/or screen shield would mask many of the subtly-differentiated 'colors'. I'd love to see blind testing of this phenomenon similar to the analog vs digital blind testing of other experts that cared.



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The Dryad – April 29, 2008 05:03AM Reply Quote
From engadget, so I am sure everyone has read it already:

Video: OQO hacked to run Leopard, now world's smallest Mac

by Thomas Ricker, posted Apr 29th 2008 at 2:00AM

While greeted with heaps of initial skepticism, forum jockeys over at OQO Talk now seem convinced that a junior member by the name of TRF has successfully hacked the OQO to run OS X Leopard. Adding a video filmed by Mr. Blurry Cam didn't hurt the cause. TRF's OQO is setup in a dual-boot Vista / OS X mode which boots Leopard in about 2 minutes and 30 seconds. WiFi, sound, power management and Bluetooth... it's all there with applications popping with serious snap. The only thing missing at the moment is WWAN access which TRF is now testing. While not yet a "plug and play" hack, it's "definitely doable," he says. Perhaps, but we'll need more details to say the least. Video excerpt posted after the break.

[Thanks Albert L. and lambda jones]

Read -- Forum post
Read -- Full Video

El Jeffe – April 29, 2008 05:35AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
So, until a lawsuit is won/lost, what's the general feeling on the legality?

stan adams – April 29, 2008 07:34AM Reply Quote
Legality? If these guys were to try and sell/profit from any part of the hack Apple would be all over 'em like white on rice. If they were ti post instructions on how to fool OS X into loading on non Apple HW or god forbid host data/an image of anything that is protected IP of Apple Inc. it'd be all over too.

As a an academic/hobbyist type activity I don't think Apple can or would do much to interfere, and in certain part of the company they might even cheer these guys on -- how different is this, philosophically, from Bootcamp? Both are attempts to make a specific HW implementation have chameleon like properties.

Of course on the business/"dollars and sense" side of Apple there are people who know where every gram of butter on their bread comes from. They likely have already done the analysis of whether the OQO business model works to complement/compete with iPhone or MBA -- my guess is that the ungainliness/heft/function compromise of the OQO is pretty much why Apple does what they do (and why Woz and the lipo enhanced Kathy Giffin are splitsville http://valleywag.com/384824/steve-wozniak-and-kathy-griffin-all-broken-up)

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/29/2008 07:36AM by stan adams.

El Jeffe – April 29, 2008 07:38AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
How does or what clause in Apple's OS license, dictate it must only be run on Apple hardware? And has this already been tested in the courts? Any other OSes that do this and/or related court cases?

I just see how if someone buys Leopard, they can't run it on anything they please. INCLUDING selling said system.

Cloudscout – April 29, 2008 09:45AM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
Section 2A of the Mac OS X 10.5 license says "This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time."

I suspect this will be very difficult for Apple to enforce, though. Psystar will be the first to really test it... unless they just fold.

John Willoughby – April 29, 2008 09:47AM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support
So, put an Apple label on your Oqo. Isn't that what those decals are for?

Cloudscout – April 29, 2008 10:06AM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
Funny. That was the first thing that crossed my mind.

rino – April 30, 2008 08:30AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
Stupid built-in monitor, throw away shiite. Great looking all-in-one but seriously. A CPU lasts for what? 3-5 years. A GPU lasts maybe 2-4!!! Can't replace anything.

Irony is Apple is selling more Macs than ever.

Dr Phred (Moderator) – April 30, 2008 01:31PM Reply Quote
owned by the mothership.
laptops have built-in monitors as well.

But maybe that's why we do so much business with trade-in these days.

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