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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 07, 2007 09:46PM Reply Quote
Politics. Don Granberry on the old Spork Boards was quite fond of talking about them, and here we continue on in that fine tradition.


El Jeffe – July 09, 2011 05:29PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I've heard there are people that think the world cannot sustain more than 300 million. We've blown past that. I would not be surprised that we would see a really substantial mass kill-off like a plague or similar. But it doesn't help that we try to protect from it with vaccines and better health care for everyone. We seem to have opposing goals in population growth and sustainability.

John Willoughby – July 09, 2011 05:58PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
The solution is for only people who are surgically sterilized as teens to be eligible for cheap, advanced medical care.

El Jeffe – July 10, 2011 03:53AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
You've got a platform - run on it. :)

John Willoughby – July 10, 2011 08:56AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve. If defenestrated, I will not plié.

ddt – July 10, 2011 09:09AM Reply Quote
Funny, JK, expanded funding and protection from libertarian policies for government oversight agencies and regulations would protect people from just that sort of thing happening... who else stands between citizens and the bitch-slap hand of the free market?

ddt

tliet – July 10, 2011 09:01PM Reply Quote
Tony, from what I've gathered over the past few days is that politics in the UK didn't happen unless Murdoch got behind it.

And also, remember the Iraq war? How many people would have gotten behind it if Rupert didn't think it was an excellent idea and started pushing it through his 100+ media outlets?

Power like that is truly scary and finally something seems to be happening that make people realise what's been going on.

tliet – July 11, 2011 06:27AM Reply Quote
Hmm, who wants to bet 10 dollars News Corp won't exist in 12 months time; http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/11/phone-hacking-news-international-gordon-brown

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – July 11, 2011 03:48PM Reply Quote
Murdoch plays political kingmaker in at least the UK, the US and Australia.

Before getting elected PM Kevin Rudd "did lunch" with Murdoch to get his blessing. The Murdoch press is currently tearing apart the Gillard govt because he no longer supports a carbon tax or Gillard.

Evil man.



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ddt – July 11, 2011 04:30PM Reply Quote
Ton, I'll take that bet. Their holdings are way too diverse and extensive, and investors will always have faith in someone who has made tons of cash for them for decades. This is a hit, and may cause shakeups in holdings and management, but not a fatal blow to the empire. For better or worse.

ddt

tliet – July 11, 2011 05:18PM Reply Quote
Shouldn't have bet...


John Willoughby – July 11, 2011 05:39PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
It's the Shipstone Complex.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – July 11, 2011 09:11PM Reply Quote
Good God - the Courier Mail (my local Mucdoch rag) doesn't even get a mention? More climate change deniers than any other paper!

Murdoch owns 65% of the newspaper press in Australia. The only meaningful competitor is Fairfax.

ddt – July 12, 2011 01:10AM Reply Quote
Granted, this doesn't seem to be so much a case of gun-specific stupidity as stupidity in general, but jeebus. We make sure people take tests in order to allow them to drive a car, but for guns...?

ddt

John Willoughby – July 12, 2011 07:21AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Arizona's turning out a bumper crop of ideologically pure, ignorant, idiot politicians.

Democracy - A form of government where everybody gets what the majority deserves.

Cloudscout – July 12, 2011 08:53AM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Yeah, I live in a state that just set a new record for the longest government shutdown. The previous record, set in 2005, was also ours.

John Willoughby – July 12, 2011 09:39AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Should be extra special when the Federal government shuts down, too.

ghidorah – July 13, 2011 03:34AM Reply Quote
Raise taxes on cavemen. --jw
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John Willoughby
It's the Shipstone Complex.

Good one. My wife handed me that book a few months ago.

John Willoughby – July 13, 2011 06:24AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
I thought about footnoting it, but decided that it was more fun to be obscure.

Cloudscout – July 13, 2011 03:18PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Back in 1998, the good people of Minnesota deemed the right to hunt and fish worthy of constitutional protection.

Article XIII, Section 12 of the Minnesota Constitution reads:

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PRESERVATION OF HUNTING AND FISHING. Hunting and fishing and the taking of game and fish are a valued part of our heritage that shall be forever preserved for the people and shall be managed by law and regulation for the public good.

As for the "law and regulation" bit, the "law" part is handled by the state's legislators and the "regulation" bit is handled by the Department of Natural Resources (DNR).

The legislators passed a law requiring fishing licenses. The DNR enforces that law through Conservation Officers.

With the state being shutdown, only "essential services" are still functional. Law Enforcement (the banner under which Conservation Officers fall) is deemed an essential service. Licensing is not.

This means that anybody who had not obtained a fishing license prior to the shutdown on June 30th is not allowed to fish. The DNR has made this very clear.

I wish I could afford to challenge this in court as it is clearly unconstitutional. The constitution says, "forever preserved," not, "preserved unless the legislators can't agree on a state budget."

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