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Granberry's Parlor

tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 07, 2007 09:46PM Reply Quote
Politics. Don Granberry on the old Spork Boards was quite fond of talking about them, and here we continue on in that fine tradition.

John Willoughby – October 10, 2017 07:33AM Reply Quote
Save us, Lord, from the furries of the Norsemen!
Article was definitely by somebody disgruntled. I didn't see much substantiation, other than Cook is not Jobs. Who is? I think that Apple innovation has flagged, and that what there is is misdirected, but so far the public disagrees. And who knows what is lurking behind the scenes? Something wicked may yet this way come.

ddt – October 10, 2017 08:08AM Reply Quote
I wonder if "innovation" is anything, really. It's certainly not a standardized metric. And if we're honest, the role/scope/burden of "innovation" changes between being a struggling company and being an industry leader where 2/3 of the people in the first world own at least one of your products. The boundary case -- you're everywhere, so you play defense and barely do anything -- is of course awful, but that's a false dichotomy.

Also, I wonder how much of this "innovation" thinking is selection bias. We tend to look back and think of the hits as innovation -- iPhone, etc. Should Apple be making more eMates?


John Willoughby – October 10, 2017 08:09AM Reply Quote
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More Newtons!

El Jeffe – October 10, 2017 08:55AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I thought it was very scathing, at least in tone.

El Jeffe – October 17, 2017 02:48AM Reply Quote
What a journey.

John Willoughby – October 17, 2017 06:07AM Reply Quote
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You didn't think that you owned your personal information or access to it, did you? That would be taking money out of the wallets of deserving corporations.

John Willoughby – October 17, 2017 11:45AM Reply Quote
Save us, Lord, from the furries of the Norsemen!

ARL (Moderator) – October 20, 2017 11:12PM Reply Quote
I whinge therefore I am!

El Jeffe – October 21, 2017 02:53AM Reply Quote
What a journey.

ddt – October 21, 2017 04:55AM Reply Quote
Jeffe, what boxes would you need checked to be able to call these people Nazis? Their public statements? Them heiling Hitler? Them espousing anti-Semetic and other racist policies? Them being fascists? Them saying that they identify as Nazis? Or wait, a signed voter registration card to prove that technically they belong to that particular political party? Is that really a hill you want to die on?

Or, perhaps more interesting: what's your interest in not calling them Nazis?


El Jeffe – October 21, 2017 06:58AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
i'm just using the media terminology. alleged. Not my judgment.
Their crimes are horrendous. Regardless of labels.
I am not pro-crime. Them nor antifa criminals.

porruka (Admin) – October 21, 2017 07:14AM Reply Quote
Failure is pre-greatness.
El Jeffe
...antifa criminals.

Alleged, unless you have convictions you can cite.

ddt – October 21, 2017 12:17PM Reply Quote
Good point -- nobody is a criminal until convicted in court. Well, maybe those bank execs.

This seems like a usable model for dealing with hate(ful preachers): https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/watch-maine-college-students-drown-out-anti-lgbtq-preacher-by-singing-elvis-i-cant-help-falling-in-love-with-you/


ARL (Moderator) – October 21, 2017 12:31PM Reply Quote
I whinge therefore I am!
Antifa criminals? That's not a nice thing to call WW2 veterans...

ddt – October 21, 2017 02:00PM Reply Quote
Just saying, as long as we're talking about actual criminals: https://twitter.com/ProPublica/status/921097661633220608

ETA notice who is punching and kicking people who are already down. If anyone is going to try the "they were just defending themselves" move.


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John Willoughby – October 21, 2017 03:36PM Reply Quote
Save us, Lord, from the furries of the Norsemen!
He brutally smashed me in the foot with his abdomen. Disgusting.

ARL (Moderator) – October 21, 2017 04:36PM Reply Quote
I whinge therefore I am!
And that's why they're considered more dangerous to national security than any foreign terrorist groups...

ddt – October 21, 2017 05:32PM Reply Quote
Sorry, Bill, the point isn't to make you feel bad or that we think you're a bad person, but that unsupportable narrative is toxic to, well, democracy. We'd like to discourage bad habits (and they're just habits).


Mokers (Moderator) – October 23, 2017 10:47AM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
I find it laughable that this current group of republicans, who had a fit whenever people wouldn't scream RADICAL ISLAMIC TERROR to describe certain forms of extremism find the need to parse out the definition of nazis. OK, so they don't wear brown shirts, aren't socialists and don't speak german. you don't have to wait until their beliefs cause a genocide to think that they are terrible people.

similarly, I find it ridiculous that people who think they see sharia law coming around the corner see it fit to force a woman to their moral standards and prevent her from making her own choice with regards to her pregnancy.

John Willoughby – October 23, 2017 11:05AM Reply Quote
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Hypocrisy and a lack of introspection defines is a defining characteristic of most strident political causes.

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