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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 07, 2007 09:46PM Reply Quote
Politics. Don Granberry on the old Spork Boards was quite fond of talking about them, and here we continue on in that fine tradition.

Cloudscout – April 09, 2008 08:19PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
DPBD

I should mention that I also attended private Christian schools when I was a kid. I do not believe that, academically speaking, the parochial schools offered any inherent advantage. I think they are great for families that a) believe that integrating faith into their child's education is of value and b) can afford the tuition without requiring taxpayer dollars.

El Jeffe – April 10, 2008 12:31AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
c) de-integrating distracting curricula and people

What a journey.

Madaracs – April 10, 2008 04:46AM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
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stan adams – April 10, 2008 08:29AM Reply Quote
Me too, but the cold hard data shows that there is an almost unbreakable correlation between successful parents and quality schools. By successful I mean in all the measurable/external way -- income/education status/health. In a depressingly predictable way you can find places where the parents have a high percentage of professional degrees/masters +, higher income, and better health and POOF the schools are good. You start "dialing down" the economic data, the parent's success, and their health (as typically happens in areas where life span is shortened due to violence or were the work is significantly more toxic/dangerous like mining, chemicals and certain kinds agriculture) and WHAM the schools are signficantly less good. I'm not just talking about the extremes either, you can almost without exception go in even incremental steps of even a few thousand dollars in median household income, mere percentage points in parental educational attainment and health and even the slightly stronger ATTENDANCE AREAS of even the same district tend to show measurable differences... It almost sick.

At the highest end of income there can be a fall off in school rankings. People who study this have two explanations of what is happening -- first is the fact that at the very highest income levels parents are much more likely to send their kids to private schools. The other thing that is going on is that at highest level of income there is not much motivation for the parents to care about their kids going into competitive careers, the family money will afford adequate income. There is also some limited evidence that in towns with really concentrations of parents with PhDs (like college towns) the educational calculus changes too -- these people tend to have different yardsticks for what consitutes a successful school from year to year than people who are more "conventionally oriented".

I did a ton of research on this when I was working on my education certificate and beyond. It is fairly well known among most professors of educational policy. The leaders of the teachers unions really try to distort the data into "wealthier school == better schools" but that has been shown time and time again NOT to work. In areas where per pupil has been increased/padded the gains in achievement don't stick UNLESS there is an improvement in the demographic profile of the parents (which does happen with SOME but not all gentrification).

I suspect that the best way to help individual kids get a better education ought to include actively encouraging some people to move to a better a school. I'm not just talking about busing, I'm saying help some families relocate to the area with higher household income, more educated neighbors, and healthier/longer lived people. Very non-laissez-faire, and likely to result in greater disparity of the folks "left behind" but I don't know what else will really work...



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Robert Taylor – April 10, 2008 12:00PM Reply Quote
What's wrong with this picture from the protests about the Olympic torch?


rino – April 10, 2008 12:06PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
A. They did host the Olympics. Which shows a complete lack of historical knowledge on the author's part (or gasp, f*ing googleit).
B. Godwin's Law!

Pretty typical...



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Cloudscout – April 10, 2008 01:00PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
I don't have a source for the information handy but the number one factor in the success of a school is the involvement of the parents in their child's education. This involvement comes in many forms. It can be direct involvement in school activities (mostly K-5 years when parents can come in and read to kids and stuff). It also comes from attending parent-teacher conferences and learning about what and how your child is being taught. The most important involvement is discipline. Make your children do their homework. Punish them when they misbehave in school.

More and more parents these days are looking at schools as free daycare. Any problems that happen in school should be dealt with by the school... and are probably the school's fault anyway. Right? If the teachers were doing their jobs they would be able to give Johnny the 1-on-1 attention he needs because he's "special." No. He's not hyperactive. He doesn't have ADD. You just aren't accommodating his needs.

The number of people who believe that teachers get kick-backs from the pharmaceutical companies for Ritalin, etc. is amazing. Seriously. Many people honestly believe that teachers can prescribe medication or something.

Ugh. I'll stop here. I've written at extreme length on the subject of what's right and what's wrong with schools before. If I ever get around to finishing that psych degree, I plan on doing many more research papers on this topic.

El Jeffe – April 10, 2008 01:45PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
"We" might mean us, not collectively in the past./?

But, I dislike the no left-U-Turn sign. Also, they mixed capitals and lower-case in the words. Blech. And the font is the suxors.

What a journey.

Mokers (Moderator) – April 11, 2008 07:50AM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin

El Jeffe – April 11, 2008 08:21AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
should lower the cost of food-grade petroleum products. Like the grease they use to lubricate the ice cream/milkshake machines.

What a journey.

tliet – April 11, 2008 09:37AM Reply Quote
Would the Street finally be wising up?.

Building long-term value

According to Mark Van Clieaf, who runs compensation consultancy MVC Associates, the 12-month pay period makes no sense. "In a one-year period, anyone can make the numbers look good," he says. "If you aren't looking at measuring a business over a four-to-six-year performance period, you're going to mismeasure a business, because it takes that long for new investments to work their way through the profit-and-loss statements."

In recent years, boards of directors at companies such as General Electric, DuPont and AmEx have begun looking at long-term goals when structuring CEO compensation packages.

In the case of AmEx, the compensation of CEO Chenault is measured over a six-year performance cycle. Van Clieaf says AmEx's peers might have benefited from a similar pay plan.

"If that had been in place for most of the Wall Street CEOs, would they have made the risk and product decisions they did, knowing they would have to live with them? I'm not sure they would have," he says.




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El Jeffe – April 11, 2008 02:24PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
why start now? Until stiff penalties for jail time are instituted and those that already are, raised, then they have nothing to fear. And they don't care.

What a journey.

SoupIsGood Food – April 11, 2008 08:10PM Reply Quote
The United States has more people behind bars than any other country on the planet, including China, Russia, Cuba and Iran. You cannot get tougher on crime. You have to get smarter instead. Conservatives, alack, don't "do" smart.

The problem is the lack of respect for the rule of law. This comes from bullshit traffic tickets and the War on Drugs. Especially the latter, as the law is unreasonable and inflexible in the face of modern bio-science and psychology - addiction is a health issue, not a criminal issue. If the law is going to fuck people over at random, or worse, let rich, white, politically connected kids go free while black men rot for years at a time for having a joint on them, no-one is going to respect it, no matter how harsh it gets.

An abolishment of criminality for drug use and the availability for free addiction treatment would be cheaper, safer, and go a long way to re-establishing respect for the law.

But, conservatives are stupid, and believe Big Brother should be peering into and meddling with any part of a private citizen's life that isn't a gun-rack.

SoupIsNotCharitableAfterPetrausTestifiesHe Failed

El Jeffe – April 14, 2008 02:21AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Is there only like 5% of the population that does not lie/cheat/steal in some way or another?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-04-13-Taxcover_N.htm

21% taxes go unpaid?

[quoute]The IRS estimates that 21% of federal individual income taxes go unpaid each year — about $300 billion last year. States lost about $60 billion in such taxes, $6.5 billion in California alone.[/quote]

What a journey.

johnny k – April 14, 2008 06:41PM Reply Quote
Sad to say I learned this from a comics blog, but do all the True Republicans who've been decrying McCain's proposal as amnesty - and by extension, amnesty as a bad thing - remember that Reagan signed amnesty into law? Not saying it was anywhere near perfect, but on the surface, it seems a lot less punitive than what Bush and McCain have considered.



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Mokers (Moderator) – April 14, 2008 07:45PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
That's one of the reasons most immigration legislation is nonsense. We already have laws on the books. Either enforce them or get rid of them.

ghidorah – April 15, 2008 08:30PM Reply Quote
Raise taxes on cavemen. --jw
Interesting development. Anyone ready for the atomic car?

John Willoughby – April 15, 2008 08:45PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Yes!

"Atomic batteries to power. Turbines to speed!"

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tliet – April 17, 2008 09:53PM Reply Quote
Dan,

You're sounding increasingly delusional if I may say so. To claim that the Soc Gen fraud had a major impact on the market (why not make it the cause of the current troubles while you're at it?) is simply ridiculous.

The Soc Gen debacle was a major factor in the unwinding of the markets. Yeah right.

But indeed, the question remains how long the rest of the world wants to be paid back 30% less than what they've been lending out. Doesn't make good business sense now does it?



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El Jeffe – April 18, 2008 05:52AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Anyone have any opinions on the proposed lowering (or discussion of) the drinking age here in the USA ? (some states)

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