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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 07, 2007 09:46PM Reply Quote
Politics. Don Granberry on the old Spork Boards was quite fond of talking about them, and here we continue on in that fine tradition.

El Jeffe – August 18, 2011 02:40AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Anyone know, like, hate Shadow Stats?

http://www.shadowstats.com/

For instance :

El Jeffe – August 18, 2011 02:55AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Han shot first?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44184348



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/18/2011 03:05AM by El Jeffe.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – August 18, 2011 07:47PM Reply Quote
All of the ratings agencies should be facing criminal charges for their role in the 2007/2008 financial meltdown.

As the piece states - the investigation started well before the recent credit downgrade.

El Jeffe – August 19, 2011 01:38AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
again, it'd be nice if currency was based/backed on something. Or controlled by something other than a private entity with pseudo-(portion of a large)-government oversight.

tomierna (Admin) – August 19, 2011 04:10AM Reply Quote
Hideously Unnatural
It is backed by something - credit/debt.

Basing it on a precious metal doesn't link it to anything that has a real value, it just caps the currency to something which can't appreciate on its own. Gold market fluctuations are just as detrimental to the value of a currency as debt market fluctuations.

I don't necessarily agree with the Fed being a private entity, but as far as issuing currency your choices are basically these:

- Government controlled banks
- Private banks print the money with government oversight and direction (what we have now with the Fed)
- Credit Unions

With government-only banks, the process becomes more opaque.

With only public credit unions, you have no central authority, and so you'd end up with multiple currencies.

John Willoughby – August 19, 2011 07:29AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
That's the way that it used to be in the US. You didn't just have to negotiate a price on a deal, you had to factor in the credit-worthiness of the bank that issued the currency.

John Willoughby – August 19, 2011 08:17AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Franken rant. Spot on, IMHO.

Cloudscout – August 19, 2011 08:59AM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Quote

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Al Franken.

No, they're not. The opinions expressed in that commentary are shared by many, many others.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – August 19, 2011 02:33PM Reply Quote
Franken has been an excellent Senator, IMO.

porruka (Admin) – August 22, 2011 07:29AM Reply Quote
I don't know if I know enough to make an informed comment on the ramifications of this so I won't (for now), but the article is certainly interesting.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-21/wall-street-aristocracy-got-1-2-trillion-in-fed-s-secret-loans.html

porruka (Admin) – August 22, 2011 02:27PM Reply Quote
DPBD: Several birds appeared to be harmed in the casting of this one stone, but interesting insight. (Politics, TARP, bailouts, etc)

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/08/18/how-washington-is-destroying-the-economy/

James DeBenedetti – August 22, 2011 09:35PM Reply Quote
I don't know if this was already posted, but I found it pretty funny.

El Jeffe – August 23, 2011 12:45AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
All good and well ... but how's he going to FIX IT? :)

John Willoughby – August 25, 2011 02:28PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius

Cloudscout – August 25, 2011 03:04PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ

tliet – August 31, 2011 01:00AM Reply Quote
So, the leaked e-mails 'global warming is a scam' debate has now been concluded. Even FoxNews has a 5 line article about it.

The verdict? No malpractice has been found...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/31/2011 01:01AM by tliet.

John Willoughby – October 06, 2011 08:34AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Traditionally, I have regarded the relative decline of American power and influence as analogous to the decline of the Roman Empire. Lately, a much more apt model seems to be Louis XVI's France. Either way, the end is going to be messy.

ddt – October 06, 2011 04:13PM Reply Quote
Just curious: can anyone name when the end of a state was not messy? I suppose the transition from the white-only S.A. government could be a sort of example -- but getting there was hella messy.

ddt

John Willoughby – October 06, 2011 04:17PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Same kind of deal with Ireland. In general, it seems like the Old Regime goes out on bayonets. I just want to know if I have to worry about Visigoths or short Corsicans.

El Jeffe – October 06, 2011 04:41PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
The Brits have nearly perfected the ceremonious transitioning out of many places.

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