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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 07, 2007 09:46PM Reply Quote
Politics. Don Granberry on the old Spork Boards was quite fond of talking about them, and here we continue on in that fine tradition.

ddt – July 19, 2011 07:17PM Reply Quote
dpbd:

Annals of "tell me again why we should cut oversight because corporations are so trustworthy and the government is against our interests", Part n+1:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/environment/new-oil-spill-reported-in-northwestern-montana-line-leaked-up-to-2-weeks-before-discovery/2011/07/18/gIQADiGBMI_story.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/18/opinion/18krugman.html?_r=2 (oh, right: "shrill" -- well, that effectively counters krugman's facts and arguments!)

Cutting government to bathtub-size usually means first underfunding agencies that can investigate just this sort of thing. But then again... have to unshackle job creators!

ddt



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2011 07:19PM by ddt.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – July 19, 2011 10:21PM Reply Quote
Obama really blew it with his "softly softly" approach to the GFC - an angry electorate voted for him in part to kick (overpaid) ass and take names...

John Willoughby – July 23, 2011 07:53AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Nothing to see here. Move along.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/23/2011 08:00AM by John Willoughby.

morganti – July 24, 2011 08:00PM Reply Quote
Hey. Don't you guys believe in the free market? Those people (and animals) affected by the oil spill can simply take their business to another oil company. That will cut that company's profits and they will learn the lesson that they shouldn't destroy our wilderness like that.

Morg "it's been working for decades, why should it stop working now?" anti

ddt – July 24, 2011 10:43PM Reply Quote
Yup, Morg, that seems to be one of the underlying logical fallacies (or maybe just lemmas) of the uber right wing -- that there exists the "level playing field".

ddt

John Willoughby – July 25, 2011 07:33AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
After the planet is destroyed, market pressure will demand a new one and the invisible hand of the marketplace will cause one to be created. No problem.

John Willoughby – July 25, 2011 07:32PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
You can always trust the Americans. In the end they will do the right thing, after they have eliminated all the other possibilities.

-- Winston Churchill

ddt – July 28, 2011 08:21PM Reply Quote
ANOTHER thing I don't understand about the contemporary political climate is the inability of anyone to make the "broken roof" argument: "Look, this is costly, sure, but if we don't fix things that have needed fixings, badly, for decades, it's going to cost us more, cost our children more, and cost the country more, and radically so. And these are things -- roads, bridges, water, etc. -- that we cannot do without, and are indeed within the proper and Constitutional role of government. Part of the reason we're in this problem is because we haven't invested properly over past years, and it's now more expensive for all of us."

http://www.infrastructurist.com/2011/07/27/how-much-will-it-cost-you-if-we-fail-to-invest-in-future-infrastructure/

ddt

tliet – July 29, 2011 12:10PM Reply Quote
It seems to me that in the Anglo Saxon culture is more focused on polarisation, whether it's managing a company, or governing, it's always partisan. For some reason, it seems to block progress.

John Willoughby – July 29, 2011 12:41PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
That's why the English never accomplished anything.

Ron Burns – July 29, 2011 01:18PM Reply Quote
"We look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation." Voltaire
But thank goodness the Scots were available to do it for them...

Cloudscout – August 09, 2011 05:58PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Interesting. The recall elections today in Wisconsin are kind of a big deal... but you'd never know it from CNN's homepage. Not a single mention of it anywhere. A well-choreographed flash-mob in Philadelphia, however, does warrant their attention.

Bruce Robertson – August 09, 2011 09:47PM Reply Quote
I have a brother in London. Just sent email hoping he is OK. It is really sick and terrifying what is happening there.

John Willoughby – August 10, 2011 09:08AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
I think that there are a lot of people feeling disenfranchised, screwed over, and angry even in first world nations these days. I think that this is one of the hidden costs of the policies of the "let them eat cake" crowd. We are in a situation where events that would not have caused waves in more tranquil times now have the potential to destabilize our societies, perhaps too quickly for effective remedies to be enacted.

How far do you think the US is from riots in the street or a general strike or both? Especially if the economy tanks again?

El Jeffe – August 10, 2011 01:02PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
if?

John Willoughby – August 10, 2011 01:22PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
I'm trying not to be a prophet of doom. I'm not licensed for that.

El Jeffe – August 10, 2011 03:13PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
duck.
walks. quacks...etc..


DUCK!

No license needed.

Mokers (Moderator) – August 16, 2011 12:30PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
Re: the demise of S&P for downgrading Google:

The ratings agencies have been a crapshoot for a long time. Largely nobody paid attention. If S&P ever really gets in trouble, they will find some friend in this administration (or the next) to help them out. this person will retire from that administration to spend more time with their family and then pick up a job at S&P three months later. we'll all have a hissyfit and elect the same jerks into office in the next election, blaming (depending on how you registered to vote) either the tea party or the leftist media for keeping us in the dark.

Cloudscout – August 16, 2011 12:41PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
*sigh*

I wish I could disagree with anything you just said.

tliet – August 16, 2011 12:58PM Reply Quote
And what about 'analyst firms', such as IDC's reporting about Itanium;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/24/clabby_cured_again/

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