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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 07, 2007 09:46PM Reply Quote
Politics. Don Granberry on the old Spork Boards was quite fond of talking about them, and here we continue on in that fine tradition.

El Jeffe – July 13, 2011 03:20PM Reply Quote
What a journey.

John Willoughby – July 13, 2011 04:31PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Another tragic casualty of the Minnesota government shutdown.



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Tony Leggett (Moderator) – July 13, 2011 04:31PM Reply Quote
Return to Gold standard = nutjob wacky...

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – July 13, 2011 06:46PM Reply Quote
I think the world's a better place without Miller or Coors lite...

John Willoughby – July 13, 2011 09:20PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
I don't drink any beer; it's all horse piss to me. Just another way Minnesota is shooting itself in the foot: no tax revenue from industries that are boarded up for lack of a permit.



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Cloudscout – July 13, 2011 09:59PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Our biggest form of tourism is fishing. You know, land of 10,000 lakes and all.

ddt – July 13, 2011 11:09PM Reply Quote
Aaaaand what do people stock up on when going fishing? Aside from bait and bug repellant?

ddt

Cloudscout – July 14, 2011 02:12PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Well, my question about the constitutionality of the de-facto fishing ban made it into the paper.

http://www.startribune.com/local/125593888.html

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – July 14, 2011 03:57PM Reply Quote
Oh! Say it IS so!

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What has risen so quickly to the surface is the deep dislike and resentment of Murdoch on the part of the political establishment. For years they had to fawn all over him, now they're pleased as Punch to be kicking him all the way down.

Delicious...



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El Jeffe – July 14, 2011 04:21PM Reply Quote
What a journey.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – July 14, 2011 05:51PM Reply Quote
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Rummy my yummy pitbull

?

Something you want to share with us, Bill? Actually no, please don't...

El Jeffe – July 15, 2011 05:39AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I admire his pitbullyness. (I've stated that before)

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – July 15, 2011 03:26PM Reply Quote
So that makes him "yummy"?

tliet – July 17, 2011 02:45AM Reply Quote
Hmm, FoxNews is now spinning the News of the World hacking case this way.

Quite unbelievable and a good show of the contempt they seem to have towards their viewers.


tliet – July 17, 2011 06:52AM Reply Quote
TPBD

And the net is closing in: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14178051

ddt – July 17, 2011 09:51AM Reply Quote
Ton,

Sure! The bet is, as you said, that News Corp will cease to exist. I'm taking that in the commons sense of the phrase, in that the corporation will be dissolved, the assets sold off, the name sold or no longer in use, and all the child corporations shut down or owned entirely by non-Murdoch family.

But if you want a dose of schadenfreude and have wondered how The Guardian pronounces "fuck you" (I can't take credit for that phrase): http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/interactive/2011/jul/15/letter-from-the-guardian-to-dick-fedorcio

ddt

tliet – July 17, 2011 11:20AM Reply Quote
It's the opposition of course, but Labour is starting to ask for a breakup; http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jul/16/rupert-murdoch-ed-miliband-phone-hacking

morganti – July 18, 2011 05:34AM Reply Quote
It's a wacky wacky world out there.

Newscorp schadenfreude, delicious.
Casey Anthony trial (there's only hundreds of other children killed every year, but there's one or two a year that merit any media attention, the rest are just... well, you know... Uninteresting.)

The most socialist, liberal, kenyan, foreign, black, "urban", democrat, president is trying to convince the hyper-right wing members of the house that he wants to cut... ***4 TRILLION DOLLARS*** from the debt. And they WONT TAKE YES FOR AN ANSWER!!! (thank god -ed) Seriously... They claim it's because they refuse any "tax raising" during a weak/bad economy. The real reason is because the way our system of government is currently set up, the incentive is for the opposition party to block ANYTHING that the president wants. I mean, if the president were to show "indifference" a deal might actually be struck. But as it stands, because the President is sooooo gung ho to get a "grand bargain" done, every incentive (politically speaking) is to not make the deal. The president is to the FRIKKIN RIGHT OF WHAT REPUBLICANS WANTED JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO and still they cant say yes. Its absurd.

In my opinion this is actually great news. Granted it is never a good plan to count on your opponent to cut his right arm off before the shootout at the OK corrale, but if he's getting ready to do it... well by all means, don't try to stop him. If the republicans manage to take this to the last possible moment, and end up with either a "clean debt ceiling raise" or even better if Obama uses the Constitutional option, I think the outcome would be the best for all involved. The president wants a deal, which in my opinion is a horrible deal, the republicans want a different deal (so they say) thats a horrible deal, maybe circumstance will force them to 'kick the can down the road' as has happened 100 times before.

It's funny, if you go look at the CBO projections for the next 10 years, the debt actually GOES WAY DOWN. I know, you don't hear that from CNN, you dont hear it for FOX or MSNBC. You dont hear it from politicians, and you almost never hear it from pundits. How about the Do Nothing Plan

So how does doing nothing actually return the budget to health? The answer is that doing nothing allows all kinds of fiscal changes that politicians generally abhor to take effect automatically. First, doing nothing means the Bush tax cuts would expire, as scheduled, at the end of next year. That would cause a moderately progressive tax hike, and one that hits most families, including the middle class. The top marginal rate would rise from 35 percent to 39.6 percent, and some tax benefits for investment income would disappear. Additionally, a patch to keep the alternative minimum tax from hitting 20 million or so families would end. Second, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, Obama's health care law, would proceed without getting repealed or defunded. The CBO believes that the plan would bend health care's cost curve downward, wrestling the rate of health care inflation back toward the general rate of inflation. Third, doing nothing would mean that Medicare starts paying doctors low, low rates. Congress would not pass anymore of the regular "doc fixes" that keep reimbursements high. Nothing else happens. Almost magically, everything evens out.

But every pundit, politician, and news anchor doesn't mention this... We have a HUGE BURDEN THAT WE'RE LEAVING OUR KIDS AND WILL DESTROY THE UNIVERSE. Only if congress chooses to do such a thing.

How is it that congress today (with the presidents help) is hell bent to cut medicare, cut medicaid, cut social security, cut funding for all kinds of research, cut NASA, all kinds of stuff... When if they just didn't do anything at all, the problem would, to a great degree, take care of itself.

Morg "We need to cut in order to not bankrupt the country when we vote for this other stuff that we don't have to vote for but want to in the future!" anti



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ddt – July 18, 2011 11:18PM Reply Quote
If you need more evidence that the WSJ editorial page is not, um, on the same page (or has the same mission, transparency, non-partisan nature, or accountability) as the news side of things: http://paidcontent.org/article/419-wsj-to-news-corp.-critics-stfu/

ddt

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