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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 07, 2007 09:46PM Reply Quote
Politics. Don Granberry on the old Spork Boards was quite fond of talking about them, and here we continue on in that fine tradition.

El Jeffe – June 23, 2011 05:40PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
More on "Big Edu"; and student debt.
I am reading these stories day after day.
http://www.realecontv.com/videos/us/win-big-or-die.html

ddt – June 24, 2011 02:50AM Reply Quote
wow. just... wow.

I cannot even begin to process this. And on top of things, he said he's "read history". Look, if he can't make it through things like "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", or "PostWar", even, then he could try "Maus".

ddt

John Willoughby – June 24, 2011 07:34AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
No, he meant that he once read the word, "history."

El Jeffe – June 24, 2011 03:05PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I found this a packed article. Not much fluff. Anyone want to discuss validity of claims?
This is an article that made the rounds at work, where debt collection is a big part.
http://www.insidearm.com/opinion/targeting-demographics-in-debt-collection-communication-the-millennials/

In case the link dies...
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Profile of the Millennials

The millennial generation is composed of people under the age of 25. They are currently experiencing an unprecedented level of high unemployment. In May of 2010, unemployment for 21-25 year olds was 15.8%. Today, unemployment for those who are college graduates is three times higher than the historical average.

To complicate their situation, 26.9% of the millennials are uninsured. The second most likely age group to be uninsured is made up of 26-34 year olds. Of this age group, 25.9% are uninsured. Together these two age groups represent the highest percentage of uninsured in the U.S.
The millennials are experiencing a dramatic rise in student loan debt. For the first time in recent history, outstanding consumer loan debt hit $829 billion, exceeding credit card debt ($826 billion) for the first time. Student loan debt is also growing faster than credit card debt within the past three months.

The millennials debt load is rising in general as compared to previous generations. Families with heads of households under the age of 35 have the highest leveraged ratio of debt compared to all age groups.

Americans in their early 20s have a notoriously short attention span, and this certainly applies to millennials. Their preferred methods of communication include text messaging, social media, and mobile phones. They abhor email communications unless the emails are pushed to their smart phones and even if they are pushed to their smart phones, the millennials will generally not respond to emails. Email communication is actually cumbersome to the millennials. They want immediate access to information and immediate responses to their communications. For this reason, text messaging serves them well.

To put this into the current recovery context as an immediate action item, I think collection letters targeted to millennials need to be short, simple, and to the point.

The millennnials are community-influenced. This means they seek information from their peers before making many decisions. And they seek their information almost exclusively online. They are not likely to first seek information from a single source or a traditional authority figure such as a parent, a doctor, or a family friend. Instead they will seek information from social media sources that represent the collective wisdom of many.

This demographic is also highly transient and difficult to find. They are more likely to be located by way of their phone than at a permanent residence. Not surprisingly, the millennials are perfectly comfortable being tracked and targeted. But as a consequence, they are fiercely protective of their mobile phone number and will go to extraordinary lengths to maintain their mobile phone number over time regardless of expense or inconvenience.

Of critical importance to lawmakers and regulators should be the fact the millennial generation has very few privacy concerns. They care about access and convenience – not privacy. They will tell you when, where and how to reach them if they want you to do so. If not, they will be difficult to contact.

The constraints presented by the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA) regarding the use of auto dialers are archaic. The millennials are perfectly capable of informing the debt collector whether it is convenient for them to receive calls or text messages on their wireless phones as already permitted by the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA). In short, the consumer should control the decision as to who and how they may be contacted on their wireless phone/computer rather than the government and the law needs to catch up with technology.

Takeaways About the Millennials

If you send them an email they probably won’t reply.
If you leave them a voice mail message they will probably not listen to it. If they do, it is unlikely they will call you back. If you try to make them feel guilty – you will fail. They are fiercely independent.
They don’t really care about buying a home – especially right now — but will go to extremes to protect their mobile phone service.
They will Google your company’s name before they pay you, and if they want to find out how you operate and treat people, they will follow the blogs.
If they have some money to pay you, they would prefer to do so electronically. Recurring payments don’t particularly bother them as long as they can pay you via online banking.
If you give them an app to help them pay by phone they will appreciate you. Don’t ever expect them to mail you a check.
If they tell you they don’t have health insurance, they probably don’t.
If they tell you they are unemployed, they probably are.
If they tell you they live at home, they probably do.
I look forward to receiving your comments and question and hope to spark a dialogue about consumer communication preferences and the need or lack thereof for more layers of consumer protection legislation and regulation in an age when less is arguably more.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – June 25, 2011 03:34PM Reply Quote
You took a cough tablet and you don't go to church!

I think this is an incredibly dangerous hornets nest to stir up, especially the retrospective nature of some of these "murder" charges on pregnant women who miscarry or have stillbirths.

Treating every mother of a stillborn child as a potential murderer seems a very male conservative christian view of things...

ddt – June 25, 2011 08:03PM Reply Quote
Ugh, that's awful. The best that can come from this (and look at what Indiana, here, is doing legislatively to restrict abortion) is calling the question of whether that side of things wants to define ev'ry egg as sacred and treat all women who menstruate as criminals -- that's the logical extension, after all.

ddt

tliet – June 25, 2011 08:09PM Reply Quote
It's interesting to note that republicans tend to be pro-life and thus want to throw away young girls' lives by locking them up for murder. On the other hand, one tends to hear most complaints about single mothers from that demographic. Lastly, the whole idea of trying to ban birth control fits nicely in with the small government / have people make their own choices manta conservatives seem to be promoting.

edit; ddt beat me to it while I was patching up my broken English...



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El Jeffe – June 26, 2011 04:45AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
TSA --> asks woman to remove adult diaper in search.

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/mother-41324-search-adult.html

Dignity - ain't it grand?

John Willoughby – June 26, 2011 12:06PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
If we keep our dignity, the terrorists win! Wait... what?

tliet – June 26, 2011 02:03PM Reply Quote
Saw this today;



Relevant.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – June 26, 2011 02:55PM Reply Quote
Glad I went through the US in 2007 before they had all this enhanced pat-down crap. My wheelchair was "swabbed" for explosives (fair enough - that's at least not invasive). The idea of being taken to a separate room for a "special" pat-down does not thrill me.

Do I have anything down my pants (aside from the obvious) - well yes I do - and no they may not touch/yank my legbag etc

Bus, Train and hire car companies must love the TSA.

One thought - if the "swabbing" for explosives is reliable and effective - why not just do that with everyone rather than groping their junk?

El Jeffe – June 26, 2011 04:16PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I had heard, forget source, that out of the whole TSA effort, still almost all of the 'catches' have been about drugs, not terrorism or any other violent POTENTIAL threats. All that for drugs, in effect. stupefying.

tliet – June 26, 2011 07:49PM Reply Quote
Apparently the TSA is also harassing Amtrak and Greyhound passengers. Over here the Eurostar train from Brussels to London used to be an oasis of sanity, but the last time I traveled on it a few months ago, they had also done away with it.

tliet – June 26, 2011 08:08PM Reply Quote
DPBD

Jury duty can apparently do something about the insane drugs laws; http://www.rmcortes.com/books/jury/Jury-Illustrated.pdf

El Jeffe – June 27, 2011 12:53AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Yeah, jury nullification has been a topic in some corners. J-Coop might be able to comment.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – June 27, 2011 11:10PM Reply Quote
Question: does allowing the early termination of two feotuses - both growing without heads (and therefore going to die) over the course of a year, make a hospital board "pro-choice"?

Madness...



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Tony Leggett (Moderator) – June 28, 2011 03:12PM Reply Quote
DPBD!

I'd been trying to find a good resource for debunking some of the the climate-change denier myths out there. I found skepticalscience to be a pretty good one.

The myth page is particularly illuminating.

tliet – June 30, 2011 07:24AM Reply Quote

John Willoughby – June 30, 2011 09:45AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Evidence isn't a factor. Almost everybody that I've met who is a climate-change denier believes that it is a plot to kill big business and funnel misappropriated resources into bogus "green" front companies. Given that there is very little evidence for this, it's ludicrous to assume that evidence against it will change their minds. If they woke up one morning and their swimming pools were boiling, it would just be further faked evidence to support the climate-change conspiracy.

tliet – June 30, 2011 11:40AM Reply Quote
And here's a part of the 2-3 percent of scientists who are climate sceptics: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jun/28/climate-change-sceptic-willie-soon



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