Granberry's Parlor
tomierna
(Admin)
– December 07, 2007 09:46PM
Politics. Don Granberry on the old Spork Boards was quite fond of talking about them, and here we continue on in that fine tradition.
Cloudscout
– June 12, 2011 05:48PM
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
I'm certainly in favor of Vietnamese relations... both my current and my previous girlfriends were born there.
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– June 12, 2011 05:50PM
I like the food.
Pho rocks...
Bruce Robertson
– June 12, 2011 07:21PM
Never understood Pho fascination. Shoe leather in salty water. Must be missing something.
Cloudscout
– June 12, 2011 08:45PM
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Bruce, you haven't had good pho, then.
tliet
– June 12, 2011 08:47PM
lol. But yeah, violence seems to resolve all matters at hand...
El Jeffe
– June 13, 2011 12:41AM
What a journey.
Pho? "What is it GOOD! PHO!?" Absolutely NUTHin .. say it agAIN!....
:)
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– June 13, 2011 12:45AM
Bruce,
If it's shoe leather, it's not good pho...
John Willoughby
– June 15, 2011 01:34PM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Welcome to Thunderdome. It's getting insane down there. We've got to stop fueling this crap with our guns and money. It's going to cross our borders in a big way soon.
johnny k
– June 15, 2011 01:54PM
That sounds almost unbelievable. Like the sort of thing an Arizona politician might say in rhetoric.
I'm not against decriminalizing drugs, but I'd like for all the stereotypical pot-smoking liberals to understand the human cost of their weed. Maybe they need to come together as a great nation and start new Victory Gardens. Buy local.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/15/2011 01:55PM by johnny k.
El Jeffe
– June 15, 2011 03:29PM
What a journey.
I am firmly in the decriminalization camp. At least until I am shown that it's worse than the current way. Again, look at Portugal.
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– June 15, 2011 04:58PM
I think the drugs in question are a bit more hard core than pot...
johnny k
– June 15, 2011 06:27PM
Nope. Marijuana is easily the number one export of the cartels.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126978142
You could say that criminalization is the problem, not casual use of the drug. But it's a want, not a need, and I can't sympathize with people whose disposable income helps drive Mexico into anarchy while we wait for saner laws.
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– June 15, 2011 08:43PM
Hrm. I'm surprised by that. I thought that meth would have been bigger.
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But it's a want, not a need, and I can't sympathize with people whose disposable income helps drive Mexico into anarchy while we wait for saner laws.
That's being a tad harsh, JK. By that logic people's voracious demand for Apple products (which is mostly a want rather than a need) is responsible for the suicides of Chinese factory workers.
Jeff Cooper
– June 16, 2011 04:22AM
Beautiful.
johnny k
– June 16, 2011 07:03AM
In my experience, we make a lot of meth right here in the good ol' U.S. of A. But then, i lived in Arizona. Next to meth dealers in the suburbs. I might be biased.
Now you're being hyperbolic. Certainly, whether it's illicit drugs or consumer electronics, your freedom in the capitalist system is to vote with your dollars, and you are then partially responsible for what happens down the food chain. Our responsibility is to be informed consumers; our purchases are political actions. I have no problem with Apple because a) the suicide rate of those factory workers is no higher than the rest of China, and b) pressure from consumers and the media caused Apple to work with the factories anyway to raise the bar on standard conditions for the workers.
That's how it should work, and can work because it's all happening above ground. So until their drug of choice is legalized, users should, I dunno, ask who the grower was, or otherwise align their principles. I was just picking on an easy target, the intersection of pot smokers and free-trade coffee drinkers. I don't give a shit about drug use until it encroaches on the freedom of others.
This reminds me of the old line about how the only two professions that call the customer "users" are drug traffickers and designers.
John Willoughby
– June 16, 2011 07:26AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
And software engineers.
John Willoughby
– June 18, 2011 09:15AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
On reversing his opposition to gay marriage in New York, Sen. Roy McDonald:
“You get to the point where you evolve in your life where everything isn’t black and white, good and bad, and you try to do the right thing.
“You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, fuck it, I don’t care what you think. I’m trying to do the right thing.
“I’m tired of Republican-Democrat politics. They can take the job and shove it. I come from a blue-collar background. I’m trying to do the right thing, and that’s where I’m going with this.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/06/15/2011-06-15_brink_of_history_as_ny_gay_marriage_bill_needs_just_1_vote_to_pass_trying_to_do_.html
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– June 18, 2011 02:55PM
Wow, tell it like it is... I like it.
I'm wondering how many votes that have "changed" are because of big gay skeletons in the closet...