Granberry's Parlor
tomierna
(Admin)
– December 07, 2007 09:46PM
Politics. Don Granberry on the old Spork Boards was quite fond of talking about them, and here we continue on in that fine tradition.
John Willoughby
– March 28, 2011 06:09PM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
He'd be funny if he was a local barfly. He's got enough money at his command that I find him scary.
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– March 28, 2011 06:10PM
I would if he shaved his head...
Obama's birth certificate has already been independently verified. What is producing a copy of it going to achieve aside from getting piles of nutjob birthers claiming it's a fake?
tliet
– March 28, 2011 08:38PM
He's probably nothing more than an example of the ideas that live in the heads some of the super wealthy in the US.
El Jeffe
– March 29, 2011 03:02AM
What a journey.
Perot was rich and semi-funny too. Only thing he did was hand an election over. Probably similar spoiler being gestated here.
tliet
– March 29, 2011 11:33AM
tliet
– March 29, 2011 11:47AM
johnny k
– March 29, 2011 12:16PM
Yeah, that's pretty depressing. Wish we had a viable third party.
tomierna
(Admin)
– March 29, 2011 12:56PM
Hideously Unnatural
Third parties only cause more problems than they solve in systems like what the US has - they usually split the vote, fragmenting one side or the other's advantage.
There are three things which would need to occur before multiple parties would be viable in the US:
1 - Elimination of proxy voting by the Electoral College
2 - Open primaries in every race
3 - Run-off elections in every race
I'd like to see all campaigns with mandatory public financing too, where you can only use public money, and everyone gets the same amount, and the same exposure.
Pipe dreams, the lot of it.
johnny k
– March 29, 2011 02:40PM
You're right. Arizona actually gets some of this right. We have open primaries and opt-in public financing at terms that make it hard to refuse (which is currently being fought in the Supreme Court).
Let me amend my statement and say, I wish we had a viable mass media. Only Jon Stewart speaks truth to power now, and that's not nearly good enough. Even NPR is 1) too timid - journalistic balance isn't required when a viewpoint is based in fantasy - and 2) probably going to be even moreso as a result of the recent
fabricated attacks, the momentum of which is further evidence of the media's abdication.
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– March 29, 2011 03:30PM
Hmmm...
http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html
Quote
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Occams razor suggests Obama was born in Hawaii and is in fact not an Al Qaeda sleeper agent...
God, why am I even giving any of these conspiracy theories air? It's as nutty as trying to claim 9/11 was faked.
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– April 03, 2011 02:13PM
John Willoughby
– April 03, 2011 04:43PM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Why?
tliet
– April 03, 2011 06:39PM
In the same way as it's wrong to have a 1000 cows in an area as large as a football field. Sure, it will work (for now), but there will be a time when we'll come to regret it. Nature has efficient ways to deal with excesses and/or weakened species.
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– April 03, 2011 08:41PM
If they're going to make frankencows, let's do it properly. I want them to lactate whiskey, not human-ish breastmilk...
El Jeffe
– April 04, 2011 12:56AM
What a journey.
We just visited a 25,000 acre dairy farm last week.
http://www.fofarms.com/
The one thing that interested me was how the cows walk into and out of the milking stalls by themselves. Very interesting conditioned response.
tliet
– April 04, 2011 08:56AM
Heh, those running that place are all of Dutch origin; Bos, den Dulk, McCloskey, Schakel, and Van Ravenswaay. Well, apart from the McCloskey one that is.
Are the cows in the fields?
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ddt
– April 04, 2011 09:09AM
Are the cows in the fields?
That SO sounds like a spy phrase that is answered with something like, "No, the aeroplanes are resting."
ddt
John Willoughby
– April 04, 2011 09:10AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
"The blue dog barks at midnight."
tliet
– April 04, 2011 10:36AM
Heh...
I realise the wording is somewhat funny, since it should be so obvious.
However, it really isn't;
http://www.foodrenegade.com/the-basics/real-milk/
In Holland only a relatively small percentage of cows actually are in the fields. Most others are kept in confinement for their entire lives and never see daylight. As do most pigs and chickens.
From what I can tell by looking at the site of the place that Bill went to; it *looks* like they are keeping their animals healthy by keeping them in their semi-natural habitat and keeping them happy.
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El Jeffe
– April 04, 2011 12:17PM
What a journey.
They are mostly in the barns. They can move about in the barns. But they keep them fed and pregnant or nursing.
We went to a 'grass fed' dairy earlier in the week. But the cows were still mainly in the barns.
Both farms had cows that look contented-enough. I mean, they were cows, lowing and such. Hard to sense any disCOWntent.
And both farms appeared to try and maximize pregnancy/milking; just the Fairoaks is a grander, more mechanistic appearance take on it. Both had very smelly cesspools.
Fairoaks produces about 4 to 5 tanker trucks of milk a day. Actually seems kind of low for 25,000 acres of land.
