Presidential Politics
tomierna
(Admin)
– December 07, 2007 09:43PM
Every election is the most important one.
johnny k
– September 16, 2011 04:43PM
Sin of omission, sin of commission, who cares? I care about the results. I think we have a right to be particularly sensitive to it given the campaign he ran. I really do believe it's a sin of omission, and he's largely powerless to stop it - at least without resorting to fighting dirty. But he also said he'd rather be a stand-out one-term president than a middling two-termer. He's headed to the worst of both sides as it is. Doesn't matter what his intentions are.
ddt
– September 16, 2011 06:36PM
Sin of omission, sin of commission, who cares? I care about the results.
Agreed about the last, not about the first. Don't you want to know the cause of the problem, so that you can address it? What levers work?
ddt
johnny k
– September 18, 2011 03:40PM
Doesn't mean I stop writing my representatives, but those levers are far, far away from us. Too many gears between have locked the machine up.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/18/2011 03:40PM by johnny k.
ddt
– September 18, 2011 06:46PM
Try
calling.
And throw in support for campaign finance reform that'd regulate the amount of money flowing in to elections. And lobbying reform. I still cannot believe it's legal to let lobbyists write parts of legislation proposals.
ddt
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– September 18, 2011 09:07PM
El Jeffe
– September 19, 2011 11:49AM
What a journey.
Should Obama face a primary challenge?
John Willoughby
– September 19, 2011 12:33PM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
I think, now, that Hillary would make a better president, but I don't think the disruption and political infighting that a competition for the nomination would bring would help the Democratic cause. If Obama decides to bow out after one term then it might work, otherwise not. I don't think Obama plans to bow out.
porruka
(Admin)
– September 19, 2011 12:44PM
As tempting as a (D) primary may be, it would only fragment things further, IMO. Someone has to light a fire under his ass, though, and the (D) Congresscritters too. Far too much cranio-rectal inversion even given that it IS Congress.
[EDIT] What JW said.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/19/2011 12:46PM by porruka.
ddt
– September 21, 2011 03:24PM
Yeah, the talk about primarying Obama is either from far-wing purists or from "centrist" Republicans who just want to "help". There were good articles on this stating that all it would do is further enrich political consultants like the enigmatically popular Mark Penn.
In other news... hell yes, and god DAMN hearing that felt good:
http://www.rumproast.com/index.php/site/comments/i_got_your_class_warfare_right_here/
The only thing left out is a reiteration that other people paid for the groundwork that enabled your success -- don't be a douche and not keep it going.
ddt
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– September 22, 2011 09:26PM
She's got my vote...
Heard some rumors that Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton may swap roles for 2012 - I think that would be awesome...
John Willoughby
– September 23, 2011 05:34AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
We can't have Biden as Secretary of State. He can't even have a photo op without saying something crazy.
johnny k
– September 23, 2011 05:39PM
Plus, Biden's core skill is in working Congress. Not that it's helped much lately.
tomierna
(Admin)
– September 29, 2011 06:20PM
Hideously Unnatural
The article seems to be trying to equate an election campaign with someone trying to shop in private.
Not sure why you think otherwise.
Madaracs
– October 03, 2011 08:57AM
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
Well I for one am only shopping at Target now. If it's good enough for the first lady, it's certainly good enough for me.
Unless of course, I go to K-Mart.
John Willoughby
– October 03, 2011 10:49AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
K-Marx? Socialist!
porruka
(Admin)
– October 07, 2011 06:24AM
Anyone see Caribou Barbie's latest move as a feint? I think she's angling for a VP spot again, to try to be a kingmaker if the "right person" (whoever that is) gets the (R) nod.
John Willoughby
– October 07, 2011 07:20AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
I think both Christie and Palin will wait in the wings and see if the GOP convention is a clusterf**k. Either might swoop in if a deadlock forms and get the nomination without having to suffer the slings and arrows of the primary campaign process. I tend to think that Christie is too smart to want to take the stick on a crashing aircraft, but Palin would love the job.
James DeBenedetti
– October 07, 2011 07:49AM
I think they just realized that embracing the
Tea Party's positions to win the primaries will keep them from winning any general election where people actually pay attention (e.g. the Presidential).
John Willoughby
– October 07, 2011 09:22AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
That's it. To out-conservative the other conservatives, they are all racing to the lunatic fringe. Once they've got the nomination, they won't be able to appear centrist enough to have a chance of winning.
But if you sweep in as the "reasonable" candidate at the convention, you might have a decent chance of making an appeal to the center.
