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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 07, 2007 09:43PM Reply Quote
Every election is the most important one.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – October 21, 2011 03:30PM Reply Quote
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James DeBenedetti
I'd rather they just start taxing the foreign cash wherever it lies, and stop talking about holidays altogether.

Amen.

James DeBenedetti – October 25, 2011 06:38PM Reply Quote
It's gotten so bad, even Pat Robertson is telling the GOP to lay off the crack pipe.

John Willoughby – October 25, 2011 06:48PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
1) Spend 30 years pushing your candidates to the right
2) Yell at them for being too extreme to appeal to the center
3) Profit

El Jeffe – October 29, 2011 04:33AM Reply Quote
What a journey.

ddt – November 08, 2011 09:02PM Reply Quote

tomierna (Admin) – November 09, 2011 04:32AM Reply Quote
Hideously Unnatural
As much as I like Penn and Teller, I'm not a fan of their extreme-Libertarian leanings.

Glad to see the anti-progress ballot initiatives get quashed yesterday, though!

El Jeffe – November 09, 2011 12:05PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
That's so true with many 'personalities'

As much as I like ___________ I hate their ______________ political leanings.

Some of my favorite 'talent' are those I am 180 degrees from in many ways.

El Jeffe – November 21, 2011 12:49AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Matthews lays it on thick
http://youtu.be/pB4b11_LREA

johnny k – November 21, 2011 05:10AM Reply Quote
Has the president started campaigning yet?

John Willoughby – November 21, 2011 07:27AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
He's in the phase where he's ostensibly travelling to stump for particular bills, but he's speechifying to the nation, he's doing it in swing states, and he's getting time on national television. So, yes.

El Jeffe – November 21, 2011 12:56PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
concur

John Willoughby – November 21, 2011 01:08PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Obama's just said that he will veto any attempt by Congress to get out of the automatic debt reduction that they promised if the "super" committee failed. Probably what the GOP wants, since they'll be able to blame Obama for the hardships that will ensue, and no taxes will get raised.

Still, something has to happen, and I don't want Congress weaseling out of even this ass-backward debt reduction plan, designed to keep any of them from being held accountable.

dharlow – November 21, 2011 01:25PM Reply Quote
Don't worry the Obama and the Democrats will cave as usual, thus why I will not be voting for him again.

John Willoughby – November 21, 2011 01:52PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Why be dragged into the abyss, when you can dive headlong?

I'm frustrated as well. The time seems perfect for a third party. No time for 2012, but maybe 2016. I expect the world of 2016 to look something like a Mad Max movie, but maybe there will be elections... if only to see who rules Thunderdome.

John Willoughby – November 28, 2011 02:20PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
So, did Herman Cain even consider the possibility that his past might come to light during his presidential campaign? I mean, the allegations may be without basis, but that the first few accusations were made and their payoff, at least, are established fact. Yet Cain was clearly caught flat-footed when the subject came up. And things are snowballing, as they have a habit of doing. He's just putting his fingers in his ears and shouting, "They're lying! 9-9-9!"

James DeBenedetti – November 28, 2011 03:30PM Reply Quote
What else would you expect from Presidential candidates of a political party that, with near-perfect unanimity, believes:

1. Record levels of inequality are a sign that: taxes should be raised for the poor, slashed for the rich, and public services for the middle class (parks, universities, retirement programs, etc.) should be eliminated.

2. Record levels of fraud by financial firms is proof that financial regulation is harmful and should be eliminated.

3. Trade deficits with other countries are good, but we should stop borrowing money from those countries in order to fund those deficits.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – November 28, 2011 08:36PM Reply Quote
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James DeBenedetti
What else would you expect from Presidential candidates of a political party that, with near-perfect unanimity, believes:

1. Record levels of inequality are a sign that: taxes should be raised for the poor, slashed for the rich, and public services for the middle class (parks, universities, retirement programs, etc.) should be eliminated.

2. Record levels of fraud by financial firms is proof that financial regulation is harmful and should be eliminated.

3. Trade deficits with other countries are good, but we should stop borrowing money from those countries in order to fund those deficits.

I vaguely recall I used to disagree with almost everything you said in this thread. It's rather odd that not only do I agree with all of the above but I also think that's very succinctly put...

Jeff Cooper – November 29, 2011 05:52AM Reply Quote
Funny, I had exactly the same reaction.

tliet – November 29, 2011 11:50AM Reply Quote
Ditto

Are we talking to the same James? ;-)

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – December 02, 2011 11:45PM Reply Quote
On a tangent, who liked Ron Paul?

Not so wild about the gold standard bit or that some of the financial problems were from"overregulation", but his points otherwise are sound...



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