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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 07, 2007 09:43PM Reply Quote
Every election is the most important one.

El Jeffe – January 27, 2008 07:27AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Who runs on their first name?
Again, it'll be Obama Romney - Obama for the win.

What a journey.

Mokers (Moderator) – January 28, 2008 01:47PM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
I like Obama as much as the next guy, but isn't it just a teensy bit ironic that Kennedy endorses him because Obama works for change:

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Ted Kennedy
'The world is changing. The old ways will not do. ... It is time for a new generation of leadership.'

Umm, yeah. And that leaves you where Ted? Are you retiring any time soon?

El Jeffe – January 28, 2008 02:40PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Yes, Ted is the poster guy for all things entrenched in the Democratic party. He must really like doing what he does.

What a journey.

rino – January 28, 2008 05:39PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
Yeah, Ted is really stretching out eh?

Madaracs – January 29, 2008 05:26AM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
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rino
Yeah, Ted is really stretching out eh?

More like unfolding.

stan adams – January 29, 2008 06:02AM Reply Quote
Maybe it's me, but I was watched the SOTU on CNBC and they called out the shot of Ted & Barack like it was some huge thing. Now if Ted has Barak in metal bikini and is eating live creatures, then OK, that would be a big deal, but two Senators who vote the same way sitting next to each other? Not a big deal. As to the endorsement -- I imagine this is a bigger deal to Hillary, as apparently the "bag of tricks" that she and Bill have turned to have finally been outted. Ted like to stick he finger into the wind. ( I also hear he'll make wind if you pull his finger, but that is another story...)


Mokers (Moderator) – January 29, 2008 06:55AM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
http://www.votehelp.org/

I answered all 28 questions (I didn't weight any of the answers more important than others), and it picked Giuliani for me. Pretty much in line with what I was saying.

El Jeffe – January 29, 2008 07:16AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I think it gives way too much matching for me and some candidates.

What a journey.

rino – January 29, 2008 07:28AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
SO .... that's interesting enough of a distraction. Nice way to get a list of issues in a digestible format.

So where do you agree with Giuliani (that's a lot of i's)? You want to increase spending on the defense and homeland security? :P

Jesus f*ing Whoever -- Even Obama "strongly agrees" according to that site that defense and homeland security spending need to be raised.
For f* sake, we spend more than the next 40 countries combined! So why not spend more!

Ron Paul is the only one with sense w/re to defense spending.

Madaracs – January 29, 2008 08:52AM Reply Quote
Ooh! Scary! Scary! Don't we look mean? You can't see me! But I can see you!
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stan adams
Ted like to stick he finger into the wind.


That's what she said.

Mokers (Moderator) – January 29, 2008 09:33AM Reply Quote
Formerly Remy Martin
My support for Rudy is that he cares about lowering taxes and thinks the government should not decide what women do with their bodies or whether gays can get married.

rino – January 29, 2008 10:48AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
How can we continue to spend near 3/4 of a TRILLION dollars on defense spending and war allocation bills and NOT raise taxes?

tliet – January 29, 2008 11:10AM Reply Quote
Indeed, it's funny that the presidential candidates calling for lower taxes and lower government spending are precisely the ones who support the military industrial complex running the US (and possibly taking the world with it) into the ground.

El Jeffe – January 29, 2008 11:30AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
we brought you this far... now whaddya asking for?

What a journey.

rino – January 29, 2008 01:20PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
Hahhhaahahaahahahah.....


I'm asking for a break. Let's spend say more on defense than the next 30 nations instead of the next 40 nations and use the savings toward education or health care. Hell it's not even a break, you won't even notice.

What gets me is Ron Paul is the only candidate calling for a cut, the only one.

Also galling is the cry and wailing over "entitlement" programs or public education when we have a defense budget that beats out the next 40 players. Especially when only about 1/2 a dozen of them even matter.

John Willoughby – January 29, 2008 01:33PM Reply Quote
Save us, Lord, from the furries of the Norsemen!
>we have a defense budget that beats out the next 40 players

Yeah, but we manage the projects so inefficiently, the others are beating us.

SoupIsGood Food – January 29, 2008 02:13PM Reply Quote
No, they're not. US R&D and military science (battlefield doctrine, strategy, tactics and logistics) is lightyears ahead of almost anyone. Incompetent leadership and crony profiteering at the higher levels... Rumsfeld, Cheney, looking at youuuu... and a refusal to acknowledge that diplomacy and not warfare wins international conflicts even before the first bullet flies, has resulted in our humiliation in Iraq and now Afghanistan.

The Israeli attack on Syria's anti-aircraft system - the best Russia has to offer - using last-generation US electronic countermeasures now has some strategy wonks believing that even if Russia or China or North Korea hit the "go button", the missiles wouldn't even make it out of the silos before self-destructing, and their planes would simply fall out of the skies. Info-war is here, and it's not the skript-kiddee 1337-h4XX0rz foolishness China and Russia persist in.

That said, we spend too much money on keeping a cold-war strength military at arms. Smaller, more efficient forces that leverage all that R&D work is where we need to go. Clinton was headed in that direction, but Bush had too many cronies who's corporate coffers needed to be filled at taxpayer expense.

~ Soop

El Jeffe – January 29, 2008 02:31PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
You warm my heart with your visualizations.

What a journey.

Robert Taylor – January 29, 2008 05:39PM Reply Quote
So, how's that Rudy 91u1iani run working out these days? I seem to recall many bold predictions about the guy from fellow Sporkers.

SoupIsGood Food – January 29, 2008 09:07PM Reply Quote
Juliani's advisers were idiots. If he ran on his total record as da New Yawk Maya, and his Republican roots, he'd have done all right. He should have let his 9-11 performance speak for itself... trumpeting it like he did really cheapened and debased it. That, and his dumb-as-dirt ultra-hawk stance did him in. Well, that and a campaign strategy that had to have been concocted by someone with floppy shoes and a red rubber nose.

So, Juliani is clearly too stupid to be President.

Don't get your hopes up for McCaine or Romney yet, either. I think Huckabee will wind up taking most of the Really Red State votes, with McCain and Mitt splitting the blue states.

SoupIsGood Food

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