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Canon's ditching the APS-H sensors.

>WOW! Using the theory of "inverse compensation" any chicks you'd pick-up with that will be expecting one HELLUVA impressive performance in the sack....

LOL!

Or she might be sadly disappointed. Only her best friends and hairdresser will know which.

Wait, is this veering into Love Stinks territory?

...or you could just use the large view of that lens to get your own rocket off, if you know what I mean.

that thing is whack, my man.

i so want an M8. but can't afford one :(

I'd be happy with a D3,
http://web.mac.com/drfoto/IMAGEMA%40DOTMAC/Blog/Entries/2008/1/24_CLASH_OF_THE_TITANS%3A__NIKON_D3_VS_LEICA_M8.html

heck if I whatever grows out of the 5D is 90% as good as the rumors I'll probably be in line for that:
http://www.canonrumors.com/index.php?category=3

I gotta say I'm very happy with my K10D

My next DSLR will be a full frame sensor. And a Canon since I already have a few lenses. I was disappointed a replacement for the 5D wasn't announced. I'm looking to pick up a 5D when the price drops a little more.

mine will be an supersized sensor. no need to make our highways the same width as roman carts.

What a journey.

Well Bill, Pentax was talking about making a medium format DSLR but I think thats been put on the back burner by the new ownership. OTOH they are hinting at a true professional line (K*D) and a possible student camera (K****D) to be introduced in 09 and this summer respectively.

Wake me up when someone starts making full-frame DSLR bodies in obsolete lensmounts. You scoff, but we're around 5-10 yrs from the point where this will be an economical and viable strategy for a 2nd tier camera maker, the same way Cosina leveraged its "outsourced" know-how into incredibly kick-ass Vöightlander optics and bodies. There's a crapload of highly regarded Minolta MC, Canon FD, Pentax Screw and Contax MM lenses out there. Considering the maker won't have to worry about autofocus (or even aperture-priority autoexposure, if they want), it will make a lot of sense to pick up some enthusiast cash on the side.

I've kept my old Contax MM lenses, and when Vöightlander full-frame DSLR bodies hit the scene in a Yaschica/Contax mount, I will freakin' RULE Flickr.

SoupDaresTo Dream

Kwanon?

Never heard of it before now.

What a journey.

Great story/interview:
http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/history/canon_story/1933_1936/1933_1936.html

Money Quote

Quote
from above link
When asked about his motives in disassembling a Leica to produce Japanese made high-grade 35mm cameras, Yoshida explained in later years:
"I just disassembled the camera without any specific plan, but simply to take a look at each part. I found there were no special items like diamonds inside the camera. The parts were made from brass, aluminum, iron and rubber. I was surprised that when these inexpensive materials were put together into a camera, it demanded an exorbitant price. This made me angry".

:

DPBD
As for DSLRs for obsolete mounts, I just don't see a way for the full frame sensors to work their way down in price. The sensor makers have no trouble selling to "up market" specialty house http://dpi-digitalphoto.com/catalog.php, but down market? Not in their intrest. I suppose if LG or a similar place put the effort into a ff sensor they'd sell to anybody, and there might be a channel of getting obsolete/surplus sensors but that seems like it would compete another niche -- if was not that long ago that hobbyists/ astrophotographers had to use active cooling to get decent s/n from the early sensors, now they scoop up anything they can get and outfit 'em with FW or USB : http://www.astronomycameras.com/en/products/

well, there are not too many man-made things that are full of mysteries. Perhaps NASA tests. But 99.5% of stuff is pretty basic stuff.

What a journey.

Law of supply and demand. Was a time APS-C was the sexy new thing, now it's the oldest of hats. Sony is now making full-frame sensors, even though they have no intention of making a full-frame system themselves. (Not =that= many Minolta fanatics out there wedded to their old glass... the Alpha is selling on its own merits.) A lot of the "brand name" makers have outsourced the manufacture, and even the design at times, of their SLR's to companies like Cosina. One of them is going to realize they can make some cash on the side selling DSLR bodies to enthusiasts who will pay top-of-the-line autofocus, program exposure money for a camera that doesn't need either.

~ Soop

I would like the pro-sumer lines to get FF sensors. I'm not upgrading my 10D yet simply because the benefits aren't that outrageous of the line so far. The 40D does offer some very nice advantages over my 10D though... and I'm close to pulling that trigger.

well, don't hold yor breath.

They're not going to give the 10D series FF ever. They've got their own set of lenses to address that and more consumers want tele lenses than wide angles. Frankly, people don't get wide lenses while tele lenses are obvious for little league and junk like that.

Interesting take. Ya think? There are special lenses to account of the 1/6 magnification? I just use standard lenses so my 24mm is 38mm. I do like the magnification factor for tele. But the full frames have so much resolution.

Just seems like natural evolution begs for more and better for products not the same.

There's this film being produced in stop motion (using iStop Motion btw) using a 5D. Edison and Leo (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0907678/). They have to down sample the files to highdef resolution!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/09/2008 06:38AM by rino.

I would prefer FF on the low end, but it's not going to happen. No matter how you cut it, the FF sensors are more pricey than the APS crop. The prosumer stuff is staying cropped unless you think 5D is prosumer. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF-S_lens_mount for the lenses.

There may be a slightly lower end 5D, but it's unlikely. This is the general consensus from years of reading dpreview and the other main sites.

There are some issues with FF sensors too. See http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/full_frame_vs_aps-c.html There's no question I get serious vignetting with my lenses on the 5D.

I want a FF M8.

And wtf is going on with my messages reputedly being spam? Aren't there some access permissions we can set for those of us who have been with the boards, for what, over a decade now?

I had to delete this line to make the previous one work. http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/full_frame_vs_aps-c.html