Bahoot? Kersplat!
bahamut
– December 09, 2007 05:56PM
Well, it's about time.
James DeBenedetti
– November 09, 2011 08:49PM
I think Adobe is just one of those zombie tech companies - the geniuses left a long time ago (probably when they sidelined the Mac), and now it's just empty suits and generic (corporate IT grade) Windows developers left running the show.
Mokers
(Moderator)
– November 09, 2011 08:50PM
Formerly Remy Martin
flash used to be mostly scripting (and scripting is still a large part of it's power) and some vector graphics. Everything else was done with shockwave. Now flash is an entire API that is handling things like live audio and video capture and streaming on the fly. And like YDD says, it never seems like people are interested in making compact flash applications. They always find a way to use a ton of CPU.
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– November 11, 2011 05:56PM
Well, they do have RT, so lets not pronounce them a zombie just yet...
James DeBenedetti
– November 12, 2011 08:09AM
Not as a permanent employee though, right?
Mokers
(Moderator)
– November 12, 2011 09:04AM
Formerly Remy Martin
Adobe is not dead. They still do a lot of good stuff. The flash program as an environment for building applications is very solid.
Cloudscout
– November 12, 2011 10:12AM
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
I'm sure they're going to be huge in the HTML 5 authoring tools market.
James DeBenedetti
– November 13, 2011 03:32PM
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Mokers
Adobe is not dead. They still do a lot of good stuff. The flash program as an environment for building applications is very solid.
And the last time you bought a flash app was?
crickets chirping
Oh yeah, they make a lot of great tools for print media.
*cough*Borders*cough*
James DeBenedetti
– November 13, 2011 03:44PM
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Cloudscout
I'm sure they're going to be huge in the HTML 5 authoring tools market.
Yeah - for all those web developers who don't use anything but a Windows box.
Mokers
(Moderator)
– November 14, 2011 09:20AM
Formerly Remy Martin
Flash the application environment is an entirely different ecosystem. A lot of people who are doing animation, regardless of what platform it is going to end up, like to use Flash for example. Motion editing is integrated to the point where people are picking up Flash instead of Illustrator in some places. If you are doing a web ad, for example, it makes sense to use flash. You can have a version that deploys to HTML javascipt and use the same objects and animations, but perhaps bring in video and some actionscript and deploy for the flash plugin. Lots of possibilities.
bahamut
– November 15, 2011 10:30PM
And people like me have noflash or some variant installed in their browsers.
I think deBenedetti is right. The difference being that when Microsoft went brain dead, Apple was there to pick up the slack. There are way too many people who depend on Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign. There are no alternatives. And Apple's behavior with their pro apps is awful, worse than Adobe's. Aperture, for example, can't keep up with relatively new cameras. We all know what just happened to FCP. That's no good. So Adobe continues to rule that market, brain dead as it may be.
johnny k
– November 16, 2011 03:54AM
I wonder if Aperture has made up some of the gap in marketshare since the App Store price drop.
I generally have Illustrator open, but I'm always checking for alternatives that do what Pixelmator has done to my Photoshop use. I rarely open PS now, while Pixelmator opens as quickly as Preview and does almost everything I want except drag from Illustrator. The massive exposure from the App Store will give rise to successful indie alternatives, I have no doubt. Though there are a lot more moving parts in a vector program.
A friend asked "If Adobe's really ditching Flex, does that mean we can finally have native versions of PS and AI?"
porruka
(Admin)
– December 22, 2011 09:01AM
It's certainly an ongoing kersplat - Intuit is firing up yet another mea culpa for its support of the Mac OS. I just received email saying "we haven't always taken care of Mac folks," "Q2007 would be Lion compatible "'in the spring'," "more to come...."
How many times does this make it?
bahamut
– January 04, 2012 10:14PM
This time they seem to have a clue of sorts. We'll see…
John Willoughby
– January 05, 2012 07:17AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
I'm betting that they are doing either a "Quicken with built-in Rosetta" release, or a "Quicken for Windows with built-in Cider" release. In the first case, it might be interesting to see if Rosetta could be "freed" to work independently on Lion. In the second, expect a slow interface and a lot of new bugs.
porruka
(Admin)
– February 06, 2012 09:37AM
bahamut
– February 09, 2012 06:08AM
Sandboxing goes live in the Mac store on 15 March. Very, very bad idea. I'm bullish on Apple as a stock for now, but I'm increasingly concerned about the idiotic decisions they're making at the OS level.
Sandboxing
Virtually everything about lion… I now have to restart my new MBA because the 19gb of free space disappears regularly… broken versioning… broken search … I love all the new UI quirks introduced "just cuz…:)"
John Willoughby
– February 09, 2012 07:18AM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Yeah, I'm kinda longing for an OS with Lion underpinnings but a Leopard UI. Too many options that I will use once-in-a-lifetime, if ever. And an option that I don't use at least weekly is an option that I don't remember I have when I really need it.
Cloudscout
– February 09, 2012 02:15PM
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
Looks like the sandboxing will also be coming to the ARM implementation of Windows 8.
It's clear that Apple and Microsoft both intend to lock down all of their OS offerings so at some point in the future you will only be able to use software purchased through them.
I wonder if this will encourage Linux adoption.
Tony Leggett
(Moderator)
– February 09, 2012 02:32PM
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Cloudscout
Looks like the sandboxing will also be coming to the ARM implementation of Windows 8.
It's clear that Apple and Microsoft both intend to lock down all of their OS offerings so at some point in the future you will only be able to use software purchased through them.
I wonder if this will encourage Linux adoption.
Or anti-trust investigations. One could argue this is an abuse of monopoly power by both Apple & MS...
John Willoughby
– February 09, 2012 04:45PM
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
I don't know. Is it an abuse of power if only Gillette razors work in a Gillette shaver? I look at the Android Market, and it looks like a snake pit. Not very profitable for developers, either, if what I read is true.
