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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 07, 2007 09:37PM Reply Quote
Talk about industry stock market mumbo-jumbo here.

porruka (Admin) – August 24, 2011 03:31PM Reply Quote
Tony,

Re: chairman -- I agree. While many companies have figurehead CoB, Apple as a company is not expected to be one of them, and no one would expect SPJ to play a figurehead role in *anything*.

bahamut – August 24, 2011 03:53PM Reply Quote
i'm afraid that I think he'll be dead within a year. Sorry.

John Willoughby – August 24, 2011 04:01PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
I fear the worst, hope for the best.

bahamut – August 24, 2011 04:03PM Reply Quote
Yes, of course.

Tony Leggett (Moderator) – August 24, 2011 07:06PM Reply Quote
The candle that burns twice as bright?

I'm hoping this will be more like when Gates stepped down to become chairman - except I think Tim Cook will be a better CEO than Ballmer...

Cloudscout – August 24, 2011 07:09PM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
I think Tim Conway would be a better CEO than Ballmer.

ghidorah – August 24, 2011 07:27PM Reply Quote
Raise taxes on cavemen. --jw
Harvey Korman for CFO

tliet – August 24, 2011 07:51PM Reply Quote
I don't believe for a second that Steve wanted to step down if he wasn't forced to by his declining health. I'm afraid it's game over for him.

Sad...

dharlow – August 24, 2011 09:00PM Reply Quote
Talked to someone tonight who actually did a presentation to Steve recently and she said he did not look well. I am guessing this is the main reason he is stepping down. It is very sad as I doubt we will ever see another person with his vision and skills. My only hope is he has set Apple on the right path they can stick to his vision and execute it well so we all have something great to remember him by in the future.

Daniel

El Jeffe – August 25, 2011 12:57AM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Personally, I think he should 'live it up' and enjoy what's left - be it a day or a decade.

bahamut – August 25, 2011 03:30AM Reply Quote
I like Bill's idea… he could be the next Bill Murray… http://www.nypost.com/pagesixmag/issues/20081207/Bill+Murray+NYCs+New+Party+Boy

Stock is rallying now. Not positive yet, but way up in pre-market trading. I wonder how much there was "a Jobs discount" based on uncertainty about this day.

John Willoughby – August 30, 2011 10:44AM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Interesting list of warning signs for Apple losing its Jobsian edge. Based on ads, on the principle that they have a much shorter pipeline than hardware.

tliet – August 30, 2011 11:02AM Reply Quote
This afternoon I noticed on the http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ site just how long the lifetime is of Apple products;

Mac mini; between the second last update; 400 days
iPad; after the introduction; 342 days
iMac; on average 229 days
MacBook Pro; on average 215 days
iPod/iPhone; 313/256 days (with the 432 days!)
MacPro; 399 days (average 259)

Compare this with the rest of the industry. Who else can afford to introduce a product and let it stay on the market for more than a year without changing a single thing?

It pays to make your own software!

My point is; how long will Apple be able to stay this self disciplined? (remember the Performa era? Shrudder)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/30/2011 11:03AM by tliet.

Cloudscout – August 30, 2011 11:45AM Reply Quote
˙pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ƃuoɹʍ ƃuıɥʇǝɯos sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʞuıɥʇ ı ?ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ ɥʇıʍ ǝɯ dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ
I heard Tim Cook has been drinking a lot of Pepsi lately...

El Jeffe – August 30, 2011 12:00PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
what's that supposed to mean?
You foresee him being the next Stuart, errr, John Smalley, err Sculley?

John Willoughby – August 30, 2011 12:06PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
If Apple falls back into the hands of the market-survey-driven suits, it will be done. But I think that the current generation of executives there are wary about that. In a decade, when people have moved on, the MBA's will arise and ruin the House that Steve Built.

El Jeffe – August 30, 2011 12:15PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
It would be nice if Jobs can spend a year, two, three just in product planning sessions - what if's - running scenarios out years and years ahead of time on what could be planned. Stuff the pipe with vision, not necessarily working models, etc.

I mean, for almost all intents, the iPad is the Knowledge Navigator. Took this long to make it. What's next? Gotta be a plan out there somewhere.

John Willoughby – August 30, 2011 12:22PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
At the first quarter where, for whatever reason, they miss estimates, any CEO after Cook will throw out the ten year plan and start pushing out "Glee" themed MacBooks.

bahamut – October 05, 2011 03:23PM Reply Quote
Sorry to say this, but the downward movement of Apple during the last few weeks suggests to me that insiders at major funds new about it.

The iPhone 4gs sucks a little, but there should have been a big bounce and it hasn't done that well. I know, the economy sucks, but even so, Apple was often down when the market was up.

I'm saying people knew and got out. Watch a 20 point drop tomorrow. This may be a buying opportunity for me. The company is going to bounce off of this. It's trading at 8 times cash flow, P/E of 14. For a company that constantly outperforms, there's no question its a sound investment even when the economy tanks.

John Willoughby – October 05, 2011 04:17PM Reply Quote
Homo Sapiens Sedentarius
Steve always knew how to time it. This will sweep iPhone 4S griping off the front page and will really boost sales of his bio when it comes out next month.

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