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That Darn Microsoft!

tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 08, 2007 02:34AM Reply Quote
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tliet – June 30, 2008 07:11AM Reply Quote
Well, there are quite a few things that make Vista worthwhile (x64 support for example), but I doubt whether people would prefer the GUI over XP. I've turned everything off so it looks like Windows now...

Also, it's slow slow slow....

stan adams – June 30, 2008 09:51AM Reply Quote
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tliet
Well, there are quite a few things that make Vista worthwhile (x64 support for example), but I doubt whether people would prefer the GUI over XP. I've turned everything off so it looks like Windows now...

Also, it's slow slow slow....

My current "employer supplied & supported" rig is moderately yucky HP/Compaq nc4200 with WinXP. I have it set up so that the thing looks mostly like NT or what have you and whenever I see a coworker's rig with the BIG blobly looking title bar sucking up screen real estate and animations slowing things down I just wince. Is there any evidence that ANY of this SAVES TIME? I mean for cripes sake when I hear talk of orgizantion "upgrading" to Vista I just think "how about spending all that time & money on giving everybody BIGGER HIGHER RES monitors? How about multi-button mice so that I can macro-out some of the idioticy that various apps have and assign those macros to buttons to "click and forget"?

I suppose I am getting to the "grumpy old man" age range, but damnit, new for the sake new is just bullshit. My organization has folks 'managing' print servers that fall down because there is some yuckiness happening with HP supplied driver or some crap. That is insane. How much "extra plumbing" does MSFT do to Active Directory and such to prevent morons from having "one click program installation" wipe out LANs and other nightmares. My goodness there ought to be some very damned mature technologies to make printing and file sharing bullet-proof and they really ought not to be tied to any stoooopid eye candy that turns moderately acceptable hardware into painfully slow obsolete crap...

ARL (Moderator) – June 30, 2008 08:50PM Reply Quote
I whinge therefore I am!
Vista works well for some people, but for many others it's simply not there yet™

tliet – July 01, 2008 12:23AM Reply Quote
Oh, did I forget to tell that Office 2007 slows you down even more? The fantastic ribbon is just a sadistic way to hide the option you want to use in a different tab than you're looking at, always.

Simon – July 01, 2008 03:39AM Reply Quote
Heh, I've mentioned before that I specifically switched to 2007 because it has a feature that I use all the time to make writing quotes faster. :)

Cloudscout – July 01, 2008 06:24PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
Interesting. Microsoft's share price is currently the same as it was 10 years ago. They went up for a while just before Y2k and had a bit of a run up late last year but right now they're trading at the same price as June 1998.

rino – July 02, 2008 08:14AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
yep. flat lined. blips up into the 30s now and then.

it pays a dividend though.

John Willoughby – July 08, 2008 04:12PM Reply Quote
Cyberdyne Systems Customer Support

Cloudscout – July 08, 2008 04:14PM Reply Quote
Det finnes ikke dårlig vær, bare dårlige klær!
Credibility is not in Microsoft's favor in this case.

peter – July 08, 2008 09:06PM Reply Quote
Or irritated a stumble bum who's having a hissy fit.

Funny how one day every time you look down there's a $20 bill at your feet and the next you just step into one pile of shit after another

binky – July 09, 2008 12:40AM Reply Quote
We'll see what CPB will do for the ads. Let's see, a giant fiberglass Bill Gates like the Burger King spots? Or a menacing Balmer in the backseat like "my fast" for VW?

The frat boys at CPB will work a fart joke in, no doubt!

stan adams – July 09, 2008 09:23AM Reply Quote
Who were geniuses that did that Office commercial where people who spent money on the previous version of the product were portrayed as dinosaurs? Yep, that is how to get into the "hip mindset" alright...

tomierna (Admin) – July 09, 2008 01:33PM Reply Quote
Hideously Unnatural
Insulting your customers seems to be par for the course in this decade's social temperature.

Webbie – July 14, 2008 12:09PM Reply Quote
Make sure you turn off auto updates before that laptop goes to sleepp on you. (http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PageIndex=2&SiteID=1&PageID=2&PostID=1485874) My daughter has been hru no end of grief with her Vista laptop because of this issue.

ddt – August 18, 2008 01:00PM Reply Quote
so, how off am i in thinking that this means that MS gets to sell _two_ OS licenses per computer?

ddt

morganti – August 18, 2008 02:49PM Reply Quote
I believe there's some sort of "if you buy vista, you can downgrade for free" thing going on.

Im quite certain that even if they DIDN'T, big corps would NOT put up with that shit for long.

Morg "But hey, some dudes playing with vista for 10 minutes didn't think it sucked!!!" anti

El Jeffe – August 18, 2008 03:10PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
Downgrade? We always buy licenses and install the OLD STUFF THAT WORKS.

morganti – August 19, 2008 08:18AM Reply Quote
Granted you're in a big shop, so I assume you can call up dell/hp/gateway and say we need 350 Core2 2.66 with 3gb-ram, Onboard video, and XP SP3 preinstalled.

But maybe its the folks that buy the "whats on the shelf" machine, and then downgrade in house that they are talking about.

Morg "Got nothin... at all" anti

El Jeffe – August 19, 2008 03:45PM Reply Quote
What a journey.
I can't see those guys from up here. :)

ARL (Moderator) – August 20, 2008 11:19PM Reply Quote
I whinge therefore I am!
Microsoft is planning to launch a massive advertising campaign worth hundreds of millions of dollars to promote Vista. Key features to be promoted include upgraded security and compatibility with both applications and devices.

And while Microsoft is "official partner" for the Olympics, Beijing chose to use XP for the "smooth running" of the Games (complete with opening ceremony BSOD). Doesn't say much for Vista really...

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