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tomierna's Avatar Picture tomierna (Admin) – December 07, 2007 09:34PM Reply Quote
FUD, fear and loathing, cross-platform livin', sickness unto death, enterprise strategies and tactics.

tomierna (Admin) – December 08, 2007 06:43AM Reply Quote
Hideously Unnatural
Is anyone else having issues printing from Excel in Leopard? Something wacky about margins...

rino – December 09, 2007 04:55AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
Don't use Excel all that much have you tried NeoOffice? It pretty much rocks, but then, I'm not an Office User Geek. OUG for short ...

I wanted to be first but can't be now, but early enough to kick off this new incarnation in a similar manner as another one:

AAPL vs MSFT -- it's been a good decade.

... and we're gaining on them fast!

[disclaimer: this poster owns measly amounts of shares in both]

tomierna (Admin) – December 09, 2007 08:38AM Reply Quote
Hideously Unnatural
Actually, I've just started using Numbers. Seems nice enough.

I'm a pretty casual Excel user. Nothing fancy.

It's just that the last Excel doc I tried to open with Microsoft Excel bitched about having incorrectly sized margins for the printer, and then when I dismissed the error, every cell became the size of a page.

I tried to fix the margins, but error checking on that dialog prevented me from getting to the Margins tab.

I double-clicked one of the margins to get to the Margins tab, zeroed out everything and was able to print at that point.

Cloudscout – December 16, 2007 09:21AM Reply Quote
Me, I want a hula-hoop.
This is an interesting line from Microsoft's page titled "Notable Changes in Windows Vista Service Pack 1 Release Candidate":

Adds support for creating a single DVD media that boots on PCs with either BIOS or EFI.

Cloudscout – December 16, 2007 06:35PM Reply Quote
Me, I want a hula-hoop.
Why do I bother trying to be legitimate with my software? It just makes things inconvenient.

I want to install Office 2004 on my MacBook Pro but I have an upgrade copy and I can't, for the life of me, find my copy of Office v.X which it requires in order to verify that I'm eligible for the upgrade.

Simon – December 16, 2007 07:44PM Reply Quote
Can you download a non-upgrade installer and then use your legit serial number or is it locked to the upgrade installer?

Cloudscout – December 17, 2007 09:08AM Reply Quote
Me, I want a hula-hoop.
The serial number is what makes it an upgrade, I believe.

Cloudscout – December 31, 2007 07:56AM Reply Quote
Me, I want a hula-hoop.

rino – January 01, 2008 01:02PM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
I'm finally doing a sweep through old iView files... pity that, it was a G-R-E-A-T photo management tool. Faster than anything Apple can manage to produce, even if not as powerful in some respects. Pluses and minuses, no?

Anyway, wanted to see how that transition was going and dang if MSFT can't grow an original idea.

Now I know that subs do all the work for sites like this probably but daaamn you'd think they could have some editorial control. Check out the loader wheel (for the flash element) and the overall look of the site.

I can't stop just there! Expression Media... they are eating their own (Silverlight) dog food. I'm not installing the plug-in, no way Jose.

Speaking of some ugly:

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dharlow – January 03, 2008 05:58AM Reply Quote

tliet – January 03, 2008 08:04AM Reply Quote
I've been spammed the last couple of weeks with dancing pop-ups on the Microsoft site, begging me to install Silverwhatever, but as it says in the article, why would I? Helping Microsoft introduce yet another completely redundant proprietary web technology? We'll see what happens, but Microsoft starts to reek like Apple circa 1996...

rino – January 03, 2008 08:10AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
great link -- thx

p.s. I installed silverlight once and forgot about it after upgrading my entire OS.

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Simon – January 03, 2008 05:15PM Reply Quote
Silverlight is the marketing name for XAML and a few other technologies. It will start to matter for a couple of reasons. Firstly XAML is used to create interfaces and silverlight means that apps can be run on multiple platforms (to a limited extent) including in web browsers. I have already worked on projects creating interfaces in XAML and there is no doubt that developers using it will want to take advantage of the being able to run apps on other platforms. The other reason is that silverlight is built into vista so as the vista install base increase it will become more ubiquitous, which means it will become a more and more viable option.

ddt – January 03, 2008 07:36PM Reply Quote
wasn't what's now silverlight originally expression (not the drawing application, but the MS "this is how developers will build UIs" thing)?


Simon – January 03, 2008 09:40PM Reply Quote
it still is: http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/overview.aspx?key=blend

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rino – January 04, 2008 05:19AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
Well it certainly appears to be more flexible than Flex. I don't know how "open" it is ... but it appears you just write the code with anything, in other words no IDE required.

IF it does away with the god-awful implementations of previously Access based shoved into MSSQL web crap I've had to deal with I'll be happy. Especially if it means a vendor could say expose their core data layer to a customer to build upon.

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stan adams – January 04, 2008 12:42PM Reply Quote
a vendor could say expose their core data layer to a customer to build upon.

HARDY HAR HAR HAR! You know the odds of that are something close to that as hell freezing over. The mindset of virtually every vendor in the MSFT camp is that customers have to COME THROUGH US to do anything ANYTHING ANYTHING at all. Gee do you think that might be something they learned from the MSFT and the "embrace, extend, extenguish" model?

rino – January 05, 2008 05:09AM Reply Quote
In America, the only respectable form of socialism is socialism for the rich.
Yeah, as I wrote that ... there was a chuckle.

I've seen many packages that were literally two guys and Access moved to MSSQL and some IE only web-ification. Utterly useless crap.

I sit in on these vendor "webinars" or phone calls and begin each conversation with, does it work in Firefox? Most don't even print a F*ing doctype much less adhere to anything post 1997 in web practices.

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El Jeffe – January 07, 2008 02:35AM Reply Quote
What a journey.


not sure where complete one is..


What a journey.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/07/2008 02:41AM by El Jeffe.

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